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It is true. We have no plans to manufacture anymore MD-20 drums. We just sold our remaining stock. That stock came from the last run of drum made just after SandyHook. The market never recovered before the santctions were placed in 2014.
The KS-12 has potential but an exact clone of the Russian design was a big mistake on their part. The gas system of the Saiga-12 is severely flawed, just not as much as the Vepr and 433... It’s sad really because the KS-12 could have address all that out of the gate. Maybe they lacked the understanding of the system to improve it I thought. So I contacted them and offered free of charge to help them make a few simple changes to the design. I offered them the V-Plug design but in the format I wish I could have made it in for the Saiga-12. The KS-12 could easily have a much better gas system than possible with the stock Saiga-12 because the KS-12 could have the start/stop position of the gas block threads the same on every gun. They could also make those threads concentric to the chamber opening instead of off set to one side or the other. I could have given them a gas plug design that would be much more efficient than the V-Plug could be in the Saiga. It would have also kept the threads clean of fouling too. Might have added .50 or $1.00 to the manufacturing cost they have on the KS-12 now. I heard crickets in response. It’s a shame. Bottom line is if the KS-12 cloned the gas system they cloned in all the problems too. Over gassed with most high power ammo (weather realized or not) and struggling with low power ammo (realized or not)... I don’t think the KS-12 will be as well accepted as it could be because it carries basically the stigma handed down by the Saiga-12. I tried to tell a couple different people at K-USA that that stigma needed squashed and fast. Some understood but the ones there that make those decisions didn’t even bother to comment or respond. The Saiga-12 never reached a fraction of its full potential because the vast majority of people aren’t willing to roll the dice on getting a “good” gun or “bad” gun. The vast majority aren’t willing to by a 6, 7 or 8 hundred dollar gun and first thing get tools out and start working on it. I don’t blame them a bit either. The KS-12 will never reach its full potential either as long as it carries it’s dad’s name. And as long as the leadership fail to see the issue or understand the customer base... Oh well. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink...
Anyways... Thanks again everyone for supporting the MD-20 and MD Arms. I want to assure you we aren’t going anywhere and good things are in the works.
Sir, I have a Drum I purchased from your company, great product I need the screws that hold the cover plate in place. could you direct me to where I can purchase them, Thank you carlos
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Just wanted to give ya follow up on my previous TOPIC 20 rd drum "is this fixable"... I got beat up a little bit ha LOL but took your advise and contacted Mr. Davidson he promptly replied to my e-mail.He explained to me what i could've or might've done wrong in a very professional manner and what i needed to do for the "A" fitting, and replaced it and gave me a follow up e-mail to make sure everything was OK.. AWESOME CUSTOMER SERVICE, COMPANY!!!!!! Thanks Mr. Davidson
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See what Mike says. He can probably weld some plastic back on it and make it as good as new, or he may have something else in mind. If you have the other piece you could possibly do it yourself, or worst case just have to buy a new one. I wouldn't trust glue, tape, or anything like that. I'm sure the recoil of the S12 would break any glue bond or tape that you put on it.
Hey Mr. Taylor,
Mr. Davidson replied to my e-mail, told me to send it to him he'll see what he can do..... Thank ,You!!!!
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Wow, sure you didn't drop the drum with your S12 attached?
..i was just thinking with the vast knowledge of SAIGA"S owners here if i used some type of epoxy, glue,Duct tape would it work...
No, not really. I do know that this type of material can be "welded" but that takes special equipment.
thank you.....
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Wow, sure you didn't drop the drum with your S12 attached?
Gentlemen...Thank you for answering or giving advice LMAO,not trying to get beat up for asking a question.. it's a great product, not questioning it's durability,the craftmanship, wrote Mr. Davidson, not asking for a handout, don't want anything for free and no biggie i'll purchase a new one.....i was just thinking with the vast knowledge of SAIGA"S owners here if i used some type of epoxy, glue,Duct tape would it work... Thank You
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? I am certainly uncertain about this.
i'm thinking it would've been better to just purchase a new one, then ask for some advice WOW.....
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If it were me I would contact Mike Davidson directly and see if there is anything he can do. If this happened as you described I don't think this particular drum would meet his standard of quality.
It's a great product,i contacted Mr. Davidson have no problem purchasing another drum ....maybe it can be fixed Thank you
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Saiga GURU'S
At the range today was careless and dropped my MD 20rd Drum, i looked it over and just noticed a few scratches. when i started to shoot the top piece came apart (pics enclosed)...is this fixable, or am i Poop out of luck!?... any advice would be appreciated THANK YOU!!!![/b]
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tigerbawls, what, exactly do you want done, and what model of saiga is this?
Sir,
i have a saiga 12 that i would like too have the barrel cut down to atleast 18in (reading some post this is the legal length right?) trying to find someone to get the work done and not wait 6months to a year
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Good morning all.....
i've been searching the website for a gunsmith or anyone reliable to cut down my BARREL.....could someone assist me please...i live in ORLANDO, FLORIDA any help would be greatly appreciated Thank You
Cadiz Gun works is in Florida.
Being as they are the only official warranty repair shop for these, They would be my first pick if I were you.
Definitely use them if you're cutting a 22" down, as they understand the porting issues therein.
Call them. They're business members here.
EDIT:
You were rather vauge...
This is a Saiga-12 right? (that's what I assume)
How long is the barrel & how short are you going?
Are you bringing the barrel below 18" & permanently affixing a brake to compensate for length? (remember a flash hider won't legally bring it to length, only a break. The direction of the slits makes a big legal difference from what I understand)
Are you going SBS?
These are all things to consider for various operating & legal reasons.
There's more to cutting these down than most traditional pump & break action shotties.
Yes...reading my post VERY vauge i apologize for that!. i have a saiga 12, with a 22in barrel. i'm looking to have it cut it down to atleast 18in, i was hoping to find someone local thank you for the quick response
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Good morning all.....
i've been searching the website for a gunsmith or anyone reliable to cut down my BARREL.....could someone assist me please...i live in ORLANDO, FLORIDA any help would be greatly appreciated Thank You
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thank you all..i took it back to the person who did the original Conversion....we'll see how it works the next time i take it out to te range!....
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Good morning,
noob.... shot my Saiga 12 10 rds and the bolt jammd to the rear and the the bolt lock mechanism went into the weapon...i couldn't do anything with it!. took me awhile to get all the parts out for the first time it really kicked my butt. my question is i'm looking at the bolt lock mech does the sit underneath the rail or slightly outside of it? and what would cause te weapon to jam like that, pretty frustrating after only one day out . i will post some pics, thank you all for any help or advice i can get
Mine did the same thing a couple of times attributed to the BHO having some slop in the trigger axis pin between the trigger and BHO. It wobbles and it is allowed to be pushed up in the receiver. My BHO spring is not slipping off btw. I've been advised to try and shim it with a washer. Haven't tried that yet. I will try it but if it continues, it'll be one less feature on the weapon to make it more reliable.
Thank you for the quick response.....i'm trying to visualize the washer method, is there a tutuorial in the site?... looking into the trigger housing it looks like it'llhappen again. i was thinking of bending it slightly would that damage it? i apologize fo all the questions just trying to learn and gain some experience from you all !! Thank You.
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Good morning,
noob.... shot my Saiga 12 10 rds and the bolt jammd to the rear and the the bolt lock mechanism went into the weapon...i couldn't do anything with it!. took me awhile to get all the parts out for the first time it really kicked my butt. my question is i'm looking at the bolt lock mech does the sit underneath the rail or slightly outside of it? and what would cause te weapon to jam like that, pretty frustrating after only one day out . i will post some pics, thank you all for any help or advice i can get
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good morning...
anybody work on SAIGAS in he ORLANDO FL area? Thank you
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Could someone please tell me the dimensions of the screws that keep the dust cover in place for the MD arms Saiga drum. Thank you