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I'm interested in this if it works with the Dinzag FSB and is not a PITA to install. Any news?
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I have narrowed down my sight upgrade to either a Krebs ghost ring or a short Dinzag FSB. My concern with the Krebs is the difficulty installing the rear sight (I don't have tools or skill to mess with it too much), and the difficulty doing windage adjustment. The Dinzag FSB seems easy to install and is windage adjustable. On the Dinzig, does the stock front sight bead get in the way of the sight picture? Are there other things I should know about these two set ups to help me decide which to get?
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I have nothing bad to say about the Krebs sights. They offer a great sight picture and the folks at Krebs are top of the line to deal with. They're not inexpensive, but you get what you pay for.
At this point, I'm not sure when the new FSB will be announced. I was just the guy that beta tested the prototype and offered suggestions on improvements. I can't imagine it'll be too long, but again, that's not up to me.
What I CAN tell you is that they slide onto the barrel and lock in place without marring the finish (no set screw into the bottom of the barrel). They can be placed anywhere along the length of the barrel (same as the Krebs) and they use an AR-15 front sight post. I'm not sure if it's moly coated or anodized or what.
No clue on price either. That's not up to me.
Sorry.
Do they have a windage adjustment?
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I was going to order the Krebs but will wait based on your comment about new sights. Any more info on them?
The HK sights are really nice since you can have a compact setup for SBSs, if that's what you're looking for. The Dinzag and Krebs offer a longer sight radius and should be a tad more accurate, although we're talking shotguns here so that's not its major strong point anyway. As was mentioned, the Dinzag and the HK require welding and/or work from the manufacturer. The Krebs do not.There's another alternative that should be coming shortly, but at this point I can't really say a whole lot about them until the manufacturer (a forum business member) officially announces them. I'm just field testing the prototype. They're DIY, much like the Krebs. They are adjustable and can use the existing rear sight. I don't know if an alternate rear sight will be offered for them, but that's not up to me. You can see them a little in my signature picture below.
Corbin
Ive been using my PKAS-V on my S12 but I think I'm more comfortable with irons for my shotgun. I've heard some good things about kerb's sights but there are a few alternatives such as HK sights and Dinzags similar product. Any recommendations? -
The safety on my S12 scratches the frame everytime I move it. Is this how all S12s are? If not, what can I do to stop this?
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I use a quarter. If it's really stuck you can clamp some vice grips on a quarter and get it out usually.
Thanks! The quarter worked. It got pretty mangled though. Had to use pliers with it to get the plug out. I like the gunfixer plug much better. Easier to adjust. Will try it at the range soon.
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I got my new S12 and want to replace the stock gas plug with the gunfixer one. How do I remove the gas plug? It seems really stuck in there. It won't budge!! How can you even change it from 2 to 1 in the field??
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What brand tall FSB did you get (Russian, Dinzag, etc.)?
The Russian FSB is a bit too short. I wound up getting the taller sight with a rear ghost ring from Krebs. -
I use an earlier version of this bag:
http://www.onesourcetactical.com/index.asp...amp;ProdID=1186
It holds all four of my AGPs, plus several pistol mags, a Glock, water bottle, and more. With all the AGPs, the cover closes but the mags are visible. For more covert usage, you could get 2 or three inside.
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The announcement will be coming in the next week
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The KA-1212 will screw directly onto the end of a threaded S 12, correct?
Yup, has the standard M22x0.75 threads and a lockring. We're working on a big batch of them right now and will try to put together a package deal for Saiga-12 members sometime in January to coincide with the start of our advertising sponsorship here.
Has anyone heard anything about the 'package deal' mentioned on this forum back on December 18th? I am nearing the completion of my latest Saiga 12 conversion and I wanted to incorporate a KA-1212.
I would be interested in one as well.
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I have heard that the AK47/Galil LULA works with Saiga 12 magazines. Has anyone tried them with AGP mags? I love my UPLULA for my Glock and would like to use something similar with my Saiga magazines.
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The KA-1212 will screw directly onto the end of a threaded S 12, correct?
Yup, has the standard M22x0.75 threads and a lockring. We're working on a big batch of them right now and will try to put together a package deal for Saiga-12 members sometime in January to coincide with the start of our advertising sponsorship here.
I'll take one! Let me know when you have your 'package deal' going.
JD
Will it work with an FSB? Can it be indexed to the FSB with a pin if a Dinzag FSB is used?
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Krisfox,
Did you ever get around to trying both brakes? I too am considering these and would like to hear how they worked.
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Are the stainless stronger than regular or where you referring to the corrosion resistance?
Stainless is more durable than the light weight alloys. Also, it absorbs recoil better for quicker, more accurate follow up shots.
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I have shot the .357 snubby, the recoil doesn't bug me at all and I'm hoping to get as long barrel as I can and still carry. I'll take a look at the S&W, thanks.
Did you shoot a light .357 snubby? Even if you can handle the recoil, can you do follow up shots quickly. And I doubt if the gun can handle having too many hot .357 magnum being shot through it. I recommend getting a Ruger SP101. It is all steel, built like a tank. I carry mine in a SmartCarry holster. Have some action work done on it to improve the trigger. I had Gemini Customs work on mine.
It's not that hard to put a 1000 rounds through a gun. Let's say you practice monthly with 20 rounds (I do about 20-50 weekly). After just over 4 years you would have put 1000 rounds through the gun.
What do you mean when you say you doubt the gun can handle having too many hot .357 magnum shot through it? Do you mean the structural integrity of the gun?
Two gunsmiths I talked to said the S&W Airweight and Scandiums cannot stand the long term effects of thousands of rounds of hot .357 magnums. They would break. They had seen it several times. Stainless steel guns like the SP101 can handle tens of thousands of rounds without a problem. That was their opinion. I have seen anecdotal evidence of this reported on a few forums.
Thanks for the tip. Airweights are out for sure then. I may never shoot that many rounds but if I buy a revolver I want one that will last lifetimes. Extra weight for me is not that big of deal if it means I'll get a more durable gun.
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I have shot the .357 snubby, the recoil doesn't bug me at all and I'm hoping to get as long barrel as I can and still carry. I'll take a look at the S&W, thanks.
Did you shoot a light .357 snubby? Even if you can handle the recoil, can you do follow up shots quickly. And I doubt if the gun can handle having too many hot .357 magnum being shot through it. I recommend getting a Ruger SP101. It is all steel, built like a tank. I carry mine in a SmartCarry holster. Have some action work done on it to improve the trigger. I had Gemini Customs work on mine.
What do you mean when you say you doubt the gun can handle having too many hot .357 magnum shot through it? Do you mean the structural integrity of the gun?
Two gunsmiths I talked to said the S&W Airweight and Scandiums cannot stand the long term effects of thousands of rounds of hot .357 magnums. They would break. They had seen it several times. Stainless steel guns like the SP101 can handle tens of thousands of rounds without a problem. That was their opinion. I have seen anecdotal evidence of this reported on a few forums.
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I have shot the .357 snubby, the recoil doesn't bug me at all and I'm hoping to get as long barrel as I can and still carry. I'll take a look at the S&W, thanks.
Did you shoot a light .357 snubby? Even if you can handle the recoil, can you do follow up shots quickly. And I doubt if the gun can handle having too many hot .357 magnum being shot through it. I recommend getting a Ruger SP101. It is all steel, built like a tank. I carry mine in a SmartCarry holster. Have some action work done on it to improve the trigger. I had Gemini Customs work on mine.
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Has anyone tried this set up on a 109? Do you need the elevated or regular Dinzag FSB? How hard is it to get the glock sight in the rear? And which glock ghost ring did you use?
BTW: Entreprise will sell their rear only for $119. Not a big saving over the set. They can also special order orange or red color instead of green. Ameriglo will not sell the rear separate and only offers green. So if you want a different color in the rear sight, Entreprise is the way to go. Otherwise Ameriglo set is cheaper than Entreprise rear only.
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I'm looking for a Korsak 22 laser that mounts in the gas block of an S-12, preferably new but used ok.
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where are you guys getting korsak-22's?
I don't have one but want one. I PM'ed urals here and on ebay. Does anyone else know how to get one?
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The safety is supposed to work that way???? It gets stuck in the bolt and I have to pry it out with a tool to move it to F. Stupid Ruskies! Is the Krebs or Dinzag mod safety easier to move to F from being stuck in the bolt? Or maybe I just need to bend it a bit so it is easier to move?