Well jrmy_1. I am kind of new to open sights so the groupings weren't that good. But I was happy to have hit the paper most of the time at 100 yards lol. That is all I have shot it, but was very impressed. With a scope I'm sure I'll do much better. So I couldn't tell you for sure how well it groups with open sights. But I love the gun. And I am sure there have been many discussions about it but I can't find what I am looking for, but is there any modification you can do to make the action stop dinging the brass? I would appreciate any help. And I want to get an open end stock not a pi