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Thanks for the link but I must have missed where they said anything about ruling that the factory Saiga skeleton stock is "sporting" because the pistol grip isn't directly attached to the receiver. But I did take away that a conversion seems to be easy and nothing to be afraid of(Yes?) and also that the conversion helps a lot with shootability in terms of ergonomics and trigger pull(Yes?) So if just adding on the skeletonized stock with a radlock makes it legal in Kali, it still would not be as nice to shoot as a full conversion? Thank you again for all help and sorry for all the

Really! Even though the thumb hole type stock is considered a pistol grip, it is still a sporting config? So I can get a saiga .223 in 16", add this skeletonized stock to it, and in Kali that is considered a pistol grip, so I add a radlock to make it good but according to 922 it is good because it is still in sporting config, so no need to change out parts?

Thank you for the responses. So would you say to do the conversion is something pretty easy and the risk of ruining the gun is minimal, even for a unhandy newb? Also, just to walk through the 922 thing with you all to make sure I understand. So in the original config, the Saiga comes with 14 foreign parts but it is in a sporting config. If I want to add a pistol grip to the gun or a skeletonized stock like the one pictured, it changes it to an unsporting config and I would need to drop the part count down to 10 or less. So with the skeletonized stock, I would need to

I've been looking for nice .223 rifle to plink with for quite sometime but I don't want to take out a second mortgage to do it, so an AR is out. I never payed the saiga .223 much mind as I really don't like the look of them but after bumping around this forum and seeing all the conversions, I'm thinking a saiga .223 is definitely the way to go. I'm hoping to get a 16" saiga .223 and add a pistol grip/new stock conversion with a different fore-end.( I'm in Kali, so I also would need a radlock) But I'm a complete newb and not the most handy of persons. How hard/difficult/ is converting a sa

Thanks, I'll give them a call tomorrow

Okay, I'll give them a ring tomorrow and see if they can do that. Thanks.

Thank you for all the replies. Yeah, it seemed like I got in the game a few months short. . . I don't suppose you want to sell one Desert Dog? Would converting a normal Saiga 7.62 to the AK front and muzzle break be easy/cheap? What else would be needed for the conversion? And sorry for my ignorance but what is RAAC? So if the SGL 10 is probably unlikely, are there any other AK types that are a good option. And I would prefer a non-pistol grip and just for-go the drama. Thanks again!

I'm looking for a sgl 10. And I actually prefer one that is not converted or has a pistol grip as I live in good ol state of Cali. I'm new to keeping Saigas and I like this model the most. Hoping someone has a lead somewhere. Feel free to pm or email. Thanks for the help! Jon jonathanandmolly@yahoo.com

Hello, new to the board and new to keeping guns. I'm in California so, nuff said. I have been researching getting a Saiga 7.62. Something I can take to the range and plink around with. The only issue is that the only Saiga 7.62 that appeals to me is the sgl 10 from Arsenal. I really like the AK front and the muzzle break on it. And even though it doesn't have a pistol grip, it looks fine without it. And to be honest, I am a bit wary of using a bullet button. But from what I've read, it seems this gun is discontinued and internet searches returns zippo. Any advice? Thanks in advance!