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Trust me on this one: You do NOT want that Tapco folder. It wiggles, alot. It's essentially junk. If you must have a folder, you're going to pay for it. If you're going for the "look", try an internal block and a fixed skeleton.
Good luck!
Last Tapco folder that I tried out was on a rifle at the local gun shop.
I went to open the folder, and it snapped right off. I still want a folder, preferably the folder off of the Arsenal rifles, but those seem to be made out of gold...
I may just get a Romanian side folder stock and call it good.
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Does you mag catch have a safety stop catch installed between it and the receiver?
From what I've seen, they all come with the safety stop catch.
But in my defense, I've only converted one 7.62x39, which was a non-dimpled and y'ed receiver, with the pistol grip nut hole pre-cut. I've fondled several of them at the funshop, dimpled, or non dimpled, and they all seem to have the safety stop.
I don't know if the shotguns have it, though.
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If you install a bullet guide, you can use the original mags if you dremel off the plastic feed lip.
Not 100% true with all the Saiga rifles. My 762x39 works fine with all factory mags without any alteration to the mag. Think it depends.
More on topic, I dont have an AR or Saiga 223 but im curious.
The 223 mags will work in an Ar as well?
My converted 7.62x39 works great with the factory mag with no alterations. It is one of my two low-cap mags. The other is a Chinese 5rd mag that I bought if I ever wanted to take it hunting.
And no, the .223 saiga mags will not work in an AR, they are a completely different mag. I think Gail mags may work, or you could drop the coin for a STANAG adapter to use AR mags. I may pick up a .223 Saiga just to do this so I've got an AK that shares mags with my AR.
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I converted mine because the factory stock and trigger group were awkward and unwieldy. If I had wanted a semi-auto sporter in 7.62x39 with a 10 round capacity magazine I would have bought an SKS instead.
That and the factory trigger group had a nasty trigger pull, totally unacceptable, even for a Russian gun. While the conversion stock has its merits, it's only a half-assed solution at best for those who are either not mechanically inclined, or cannot afford to have it done properly.
My only issue about the conversion is that the AK-100 Polymer folding stocks from KVAR are either non-existent, or made out of gold. That's probably last on my to do list other than an AK-100 FSB and brake for my conversion to feel "complete"
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I tried to polish up my G2 kit, and failed miserbly enough to cause doubles and 3rd bursts...
Bought the worked on G2 set from Dinzag, and couldn't be happier. It's not a bad deal for $40 bucks.
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Yes, it does fit. The three walls of the receiver fit flush up against the Tapco stock where they are supposed to--I agree with you there. But is it doing what it is supposed to do in terms of making contact with the rear trunnion step to absorb recoil? It's clear that the Tapco model does not have the same specs as the original Saiga stock when compared side by side--so it's not making contact with the trunnion as the original does. So, even though it may feel like it fits, could it be lacking in a key area that could be detrimental to the rifle over the long term?
Yeah, with three points of contact to the receiver, which is the thicker AK-100 series receiver, I believe that this is a non-issue. It is on there, it is rock solid, and if it is properly installed, it will probably take a nuke to move it.
I think it could use a recoil pad though, it is a little on the short side.
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Ever since I handled a couple of Arsenal's with the solid folder, I've wanted one for mine. It feels just like the regular stock when extended, and folds. It is far and away the best authentic folder for AK's.
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Looking at the ones on my rifle, they look like rivets, just like the other rivets, dark black, rounded and flush against the receiver. Looks like I would need to grind them off, that's how much they blend in looking like rivets.
The rifle just looks odd with nothing in the holes, and the extra dummy rivets only look out of place to those who know what they are looking for. I'm glad that I did the same to my rifle.
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Hello everybody. Thank you for your time and input.
Ive been wanting to purchase a saiga 7.62x39/AK-47 and I have a few questions.
1. How hard is the bullet guite/Trunnion to install?
Not very, as has been said before, if you know how to work a drill and a tap, you will be fine.
2. Do you have to use the tap and drill set to install it or do 7.62s come with a predrilled hole?
I suppose you could either drill and tap the receiver, or weld the guide in. Drilling and tapping for the guide is the easiest way though.
3. Do you have to modify every magazine? or just non-US made mags?
No, in order to use regular AK magazines, a bullet guide must be installed, and some material must be taken off of the mag catch with either a dremel tool or a file.
4. Is this( http://www.centerfiresystems.com/sai-762.aspx ) the correct type of 7.62 to convert to an ak?
Yes, but be aware that some 7.62's do not have a Pistol grip nut hole, so one must be made during the conversion. This can be accomplished with a drill and a hacksaw. Not a difficult hurdle, just something to be aware of.
5. Are the muzzle brakes detachable? and how hard is it? Screw on and off or retaining pins???
No, the FSB will have to have the sleeve cut off of the end, and then threaded for a flash hider or brake. An alternative would be to have an AK74 or AK100 threaded FSB installed.
6. Are all Saiga 7.62s chrome-lined?
Yes, as are the 5.45's, the .223's and the .308's to my knowledge.
From reading about installing the bullet guide and modifying mags, its seems like alil more risk than im willing to take. But it may be easier than I think. Thats why im asking. I just converted an S12 and I found it to be quite fun and significantly cheaper than to pay someone to do it. So if someone has converted an S12 and a 7.62, are they much different to convert?
Again, Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Greg
The conversion is pretty easy and can be accomplished in a weekend with simple tools, though things go much faster if you have a drill press. I was slightly intimidated until I did some reading, and I'm kicking my self for not picking up one of these when they were $200 dollar guns.
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You can get everything you need to do the conversion from Dinzag Arms.
I highly recommend getting the polished Tapco trigger group, with part of the hammer milled off so you can keep the factory bolt hold open. I would also get a pin retainer plate just because you will have the rifle apart anyway.
As far as furniture goes, I would sell the T6 stuff and replace it with an Ergo grip and Kvar hand guards and Nato length stock(Dinzag sells a bolt-on hand guard retainer as well.) But if you want to keep the T6 stuff it might just be easier to sell or trade the Saiga T6 stock for the AK parts.
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I believe that particular gasblock was made for short barreled rifles. the muzzle device would thread right on the end of it like you said. im not sure it would work. also the barrel has to be the right diameter to use that and the gas port has to be at the same angle. i believe those varied in different rifles but im not for sure. ace makes a gas block sight that clamps on. its blocky and not as nice looking but its easily removed and installed. no pressing off anything on the barrel. that can be allot of work. another way you can do it is remove your front sight block, cut it up and weld it to the gas block. i have seen that done but i would guess it would have to be tig welded because of heat distortion. heres one of the ace blocks on my rifle.
What muzzle brake is that?
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If Comblock mags weren't so cheap, I probably would buy a few polymer magazines to try them out.
But for now, the only non-steel magazines that I'm interested in, are 7.62x39 bakalite magazines.
I just wish that there were more floating around, so the prices would come down on them.
I would buy them if they were the same price as AK74 magazines.
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on my mags i had to grind the lip that catches the release. it was too thick just thinned it down and works perfect.
A better option would be to file down the mag catch until the mag fits. This way you can just use any unmodified AK magazine. I took just enough off of mine for comblock mags to function, which is handy because I can still use the factory 10rnd mag too.
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Saiga quality is much higher than century.
You mean Izhmash quality is much higher than Cugir right? All that century does is open the mag-well on certain units and add a tapco g2 and magazine for 922 compliance. Most newer members don't know that Century does not build the WASR series. They are made in Romania.
As to the OP question: Saiga, hands down.
Aren't most of the Wasr's cold war de-milled AK's built on a new semi receiver?
I bought my Saiga mostly for two reasons.
It was the only way to get a brand new AK other than spending 1k on an Arsenal.
It was the only way to get a brand new Russian AK other than spending 1k+ on an Arsenal Saiga.
If you're not willing to put in the effort to convert a Saiga, a Wasr will probably work for you just fine.
If I lived in Kali, I would either keep the Saiga in factory configuration, or convert just the trigger group (lets face it, the factory Saiga trigger SUCKS DICK!) and use one of those long Norinco Hunter triggers.
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I like my Mojo's, they work pretty well.
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The bolt on Handguard retainer...
It's so awesome that I wish I had ordered one months ago.
Looks (and functions, more importantly) better than my painted hose clamp solution that I used to run.
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Do the 5.45 saiga's sport PG holes?
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From around 80 yards or so
You have to be 922r compliant if the firearm will accept magazines with a greater capacity than the factory 10.
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If you needed a spare bolt, how would you check to see if it was head spaced properly?
Is there a go-nogo gauge floating around to do this? How would you go about making a new bolt work if it's in the nogo range?
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Recently took mine to the range, I think I did pretty well.
Estimated distance to berm: around 80-100yrd.
One of these days I'll get around to using a proper lower handguard retainer, but a black painted hose clamp seems to work just fine.
I'm counting 19 holes there. How many shots did you take total?
20 rounds total, and I'm pretty sure that there are 20 hits there, but I'll have to take a closer look at the target when I get home.
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The regular Tapco stock does not have the trap door in the buttplate.
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I've found that my factory 10 round magazine works with out any modifications with my bullet guide, but I have no reason to use it because I just use my Chinese 5 round mag for reduced capacity fun.
The short magazine works much better on a bench than using the 30 round mags like a poorly balanced tripod.
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So that means, that this thread, is directly related to this thread?
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Silver Bear seems to work fine for me, other than the corrosion thing, which everybody already knew about.
I did a simple test.
I left several lacquer cased empties, and Silver Bear empties outside in the elements during the winter, the snow melted, and the lacquer cases looked almost new, and the Silver Bear cases had a white fuzz around them where the zinc coating had started to corrode.
At least they look cool.
Need "Expert" Advice
in Saiga 7.62 X 39
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I would say that replacing the factory sight leaf with a peep sight of some sort is necessary.
I love my Mojo micro click, but if I were to spend the cash again I would go for the Tech sights for their longer sight radius.