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I"VE GOT THE ANSWER.....!!!! Let's "give" Mr. Voight a "Saiga"... He is a top notch shooter no matter the gun... I'm sure he could kick butt with a "Saiga" instead of his Benelli? BUT, Let's give him someone else's "Saiga" as I want too keep mine? mikey1
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I think we are all waitin' on the S-12 mags. Make sure you have the BHOpen (see Jeric) It WILL help a lot!The local people in my area like to shoot "tactical" and I have not been any competition for them w/ the S-20, they are not impressed so far. (My skill level is lacking at this point).mikey1
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No, it's the .45 auto upper.
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YEP, I posted the details...long ago. I prefer the red color. There are many different threads...you may need to have it tapped (gunsmith?) If you don't have a 5x40, 6x48 etc. tap. Local "Sportsmans" Wherehouse had them all in the shotgun accs. area. EZ job! mikey1
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Well, Whatever????.. AS of today...WHAT MAGAZINES???... I guess we are all a little "antzy"??The Saiga 12's are not of much use with out a few mags for some of us... POSTERS,your right about the EBAY postings, lots of times bidders pay more than they should for stuff. I'm sure we have all been waiting for these mags. (I'm sorry, but I will not send my C Card # to Russia)...(with Love???). LO, the day when we will have to make the decision...steel or plastic mags! WON'T THAT BE SOMETHING !! PVT PILE, your right, I'm not a "businessman", BUT I am a customer and expect fair treatment. I buy from seller's who have been honest and give good service and fair pricing, not always the lowest price. After the SHARKS are done feeding...?, we, mortals can dine on the scraps?? STAY tuned for the continuing SAGA(?) of the SAGIA MAGS??mikey1
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Z1500.. When you do get the mags on the market?....HOPEFULLY you WON'T sell someone 200 mags...I can see the gouging that will transpire. You should be the one who profits from any sales... some kind of reasonible limit might serve you and the customers till the market gets saturated. My 02. mikey1
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WELL, here we go!!! I have not had a any problems with Tapco. I have the trigger groups, folding stock and adjustible butt stock(great... easily lets different sized people adjust the pull length). Even if you purchase a trigger group from someone else.... it's probalbly originally from "Tapco". I have built several AK's from their parts set and theirs are among the BEST. As you can see...lots of different opinions, BUT people are generally trying to HELP. mikey1
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If you don't want to spend the money???..... I've taken thin "flat stock" aluminum and "skate board " tape and made EAA grips.... lot's narrower and easy too do! mikey1
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If you go on.. http://www.gunsamerica.com/transfer.cgi (or just gunsamerica) you will find a list of dealers in your area. The owner can send a long gun directly to a FFL holder (I used FEDEX) for about $25.00. The simpilest way is to have your FFL holder send your certified funds US PRIORITY MAIL and a copy of his FFL to the owner,who then takes the copy of the FFL to FEDEX or UPS as they may want to see it(FEDEX did'nt as he was on their computer list). He should take some extra tape as they may want to see that the gun was not loaded. He should would call first too make sure he understands their rules and that he goes to a main terminal for shipping. All in all, it was painless. Good luck! Make sure you keep the WOMAN.... any woman who buys a man a gun is a keeper! mike g or use dinzag post... I see he beat me by a few minutes..
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I think the S-20 will be great for competition. If your shooting USPSA you are o.k. as that is minimum gage as far as I know. #7 1/2 shot knocks down all the steel I have shot. EZ to make 10 round mags(dinzag post) Do the trigger group. I put the Tapco AR style stock on.(nice to have the adjust feature) Use the 20x70 mags(try TANTAL) for 2 3/4 " shells. Put in a BHOPEN(JERIC). Concider my post if you have "JAMS" w/low vel ammo. OF COURSE you can always have both the S-12 & S-20, as you can't have too many guns! Remember the built in sight rail, great for that red dot. mikey1
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Shaneman153a.... I took a pic but you really can't see the porting clearly. If you want I think I can post a discription of what needs to done... With measurements I used. Keep in mind some "dwell" time is needed so that the recoil gas can make the gun still function.(You don't want to drill too far to the rear either). I don't think 1/2" from the barrel end will help much. I used the "Briley" screw-in choke/comps on my Benelli Super 90, (was not impressed)(Sold the gun to buy a Saiga) The tool you want is a #3 centering drill (Brownells,pg. 166 or tool supply house) This gives a .107 " hole and lets you champer for the "vortex" effect at the same time(look at any rocket engine, most have a vortex on the business end). I can't see the attempt at "angle" porting as the barrel is to thin for much gain in my mind. If you don't have access to a simple drill press,you may not be able to keep the holes in line as accurately?. I have 3 rolls of holes, 6 on the left side, 9 in the center and 8 on the right side, with more locations marked for the option to drill more if needed. I started back far enough(3 1/2") to allow the barrel to be shortened to 19"/or/screw in chokes to be installed etc. Remember, the # of holes will depend on what load you shoot for best functioning! I have ended up changing the rear spring to a Colt.45 spring for full functioning on my S20 and will need to "tune" the S12 once I'm happy. mikey1
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Nope different. See the "jeric" post... reply to me. You can copy his pic/buy one from him.. For simplicity, the shottie hooks on the rear of thebolt and the rifle is more to the middle...I've got both. sorry. Read his installation post..it's right on! mikey1
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RE, Barrel porting. This WORKS, "felt" recoil is reduced. I have a gunsmith friend who gave me his shotgun "formula". I shoot 2 .38 Super red dot "race guns" in competiton,(uspsa). Compensated guns like this all shoot in the "open" class were such modifications are permitted. (You have an advantage over non ported guns) Hot rod ammo is used(9mm x 115 grain bullet going about 1500 +, feet per second is the norm. (lots of "gas" too make the comp "work"). I have a S12 with 23 barrel "ports". I built the gun to shoot in 3 gun competition. When someone finally makes usa hi-cap mags, I will be ready to rock & roll.( Sorry, I am not going to send my credit card # overseas) ( I have shot my s20 x 10 round mag in informal competition and the "mag" fed shotguns are quicker to reload (need to have the BHO feature), interestingly, ALL mag fed shotguns are automaticly put in the "open" class as they have an "advantage".(uspsa) mikey1
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Simple solution.... Go buy some 1/2 " wide aluminum flat stock from Lowes/ Home Depot. It's soft enough that you can bend any shape you wish, BUT strong enough for a trigger guard... a little black paint and your done.(I have done it) Saiga K ..I hope you get well soon????mikey1
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Well, you have found the place!!! Don't slight the Saiga 20... It will do all you wish...maybe more? Put a few $$$ in the 20 BEFORE you get the s-12.. The 20 will change your mind? The worst problem for a competion shooter is the stock trigger group, BUT $35 cures that (TAPCO style)). You can file a slot on the safety/selector lever that functions as a Bolt Hold Open for FREE or use a $5 chain saw file. (RANGE GUYS will like you!). You can put on a day glo front sight for $5. A rubber butt pad is availible for $10 (Medium Slip on) $32 gives you a 10 round mag that WORKS!(dinzag). "Blakjack buffers" cut the recoil way down($10,green)(can affect gun jams, check with your ammo). A $5 Colt 45 spring will let you shoot/extract cheepo Wally World ammo with no modifications to the gun.("jams") These are FUN, Inexpensive guns IF you are at all HANDY??. Be careful of the 20x76 mags... they don't shoot everything!!! There is a FREE tracing (jeric) for a internal BHOpen, (need to make simple spring) which is very good for competition shooting(or purchase one from him on the 12 site, (fits s-20) as full Saiga mags can be difficult to load with the bolt closed. You can make the 5rd. mag into a 6 round mag for ZERO $$. Don't forget the side rail,you can put a red-dot on easy!! seeing more & more scopes on competiton shotguns! There are many helpful "posts" here. SAVE a few $$$, the 20 will do it all. If you just have to have a S-12, find/consider the factory external threaded one, (19" barrel) for the reason that chokes are availible and you might want to change chokes for what your uses are. Check the posts, ...lots of good info.. mikey1
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Gentlemen, see my post on s-20"jams". I think it has some merit for the s-12 problems also? For $5 what have you got to loose? Less recoil gas for low vel BUT same spring tension??? Trying too be helpful...mikey1
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As Stokstad said, pitch them. You will spend sooo much time polishing things....and then not really gain much.(i've done it). The "TAPCO" parts are sold by most everyone. I don't see much difference between the trigger pull one either the single hook style or the double hook style, just a little more filing to the receiver for the double hook. Convert , eliminate the "rocker" in the Saiga system. I have done and own a S20,S12,and S7.62 x39. Make sure you stay with the legal count to avoid any hassels from "Big" Bro.mikey1
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Check out my post "jams". The info my be of some interest to you.mikey 1
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Fellow Saiga12 owners...I don't feel the gas system is ALL the problem?...you might want too try this before drilling?... My S20 (see "jams" on the 20 site) WAS bad!!! on LOW VEL ammo... NOT ANY MORE. Simply sustitute a COLT .45 spring for the front Saiga spring (on a S12 a slightly heavyer spring,say 13#,14# may be better??). You will have $5 invested and no non reversible actions taken. I don't shoot my S12 much, ....AWATTING THE S12 MAG "GOD" TO APPEAR AND FEED THE HUNGRY!!!mikey1
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SaigaK.... This person?? has to be a silly person??? Lots of silly posts to obvious answered pre-posts. WHY bother??? The only answer is.... A good group of Saiga owners. I have rambled on a couple of times. BUT have "posted" only working solutions /or/ try-it's. All the "stuff" I have learned about the Saiga's has come from this site. I enjoy "tinkering" and will try to HELP. Wondering.... is this a child playing/ does/ this person OWN a Saiga... ??????mikey1
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SOLD. e-mail me your address. I will send US postal mo and e-mail the # to you when sent. mikey1
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"TANTAL", (DOUG FORD,TEXAS) HAD THE 20 MAGS. FAIR PRICE GOOD SERVICE! IF YOU WISH TO SHOOT 2 3/4" STUFF GET THE 20X70 MAGS. THE "DINZAG" POST FOR 10 ROUNDERS X $32 WORKS. THE "TRIGGER" CONVERSION GIVES A MUCH NICER PULL FOR LITTLE BUCKS...WELL WORTH THE MONEY...I THINK? I'VE BEEN USING THE TAPCO DOUBLE HOOK STYLE. THE BOLT HOLD OPEN IS A NICE FEATURE FOR COMPETITION (SEE "JERIC" POST) IF YOU HAVE WORKED ON AK'S ,PULLING THE GAS BLOCK OFF IS NO BIGGIE, SEE MY POST "JAMS". (GAS PORTS TO .086)BUT....GO BUY A $5 COLT.45 SPRING AND SHOOT THE CHEEPO STUFF, AGAIN.... I FEEL MOST JAMS ARE TOO MUCH RECOIL SPRING FOR THE 20'S ON LOW VEL. AMMO. THIS SITE HAS A LOT OF HELPFUL MEMBERS, YOU CAN FIND ALL THE INFO YOU NEED. THESE ANSWERS ARE NOT IN ORDER,BUT SHOULD BE USEFUL?MIKEY1
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UPS shipping of a "long-gun" was simple, as stated "had to ship" from a main hub not mom & pop store. I made the receiving party send a signed FFL so that I could show the UPS person BUT on their database the FFL bussiness address showed up and they did not even look at the signed FFL that I had in my possession. Their policy stated? that the package should be "opened" for inspection, but this was not done . They were more interested IF there was any "ammo" included. I believe FEDEX is the same. The cost was reasonable ($24) mikey1
Any "insider" info on the 10 rnd. mags
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Any updates on the 10 rd."mags" from either builder/ testers?? It's difficult to wait w/NO info?