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Has anyone been following the statement that the atlanta NAACP chapter has made regarding dog fighting is like hunting whitetail deer? APPARANTLY us hunters are no better than people that are cruel to animals and the innocent.
I guess sitting here looking out the window at the 14 turkeys in my friend's yard and getting hungry is the same thing as taking his pit bull (hes a really nice dog, which they got BECAUSE of the pitbull that I had) to poughkeepsie and betting on him, then when he loses, electrocuting him to death, or tying a rock to him and tossing him in the creek.
because apparantly, that is what the NAACP would have us believe.
what I want to know is this. how can a CRIMINAL ACT be compared to me feeding myself? the lowest form of human life is one that feeds on the weak.
people that abuse and fight dogs are NOT like hunters, BUT they are almost EXACTLY THE SAME AS PEDOPHILES.
I will refrain from an extreme statement.
+1,000,000
I hope Michael Vick dies a slow and painful death. Preferably while incarcerated.
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I'd like to either buy one or even better yet; get mine converted.
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+100
BRG3's stuff is the best, and Tony has used it in many a conversion.
he is "the one"
Yup. He does top notch work - My S-20 furniture is just awesome! I am a 100% satisfied customer.
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Quick payer.
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I just received two beautiful Russian bakelite mags from him that bought for my sons. Needless to say both boys are very happy and I'm very jealous. They came well packaged and were shipped very quickly.
Lather, Rinse, Repeat. Thanks again Micah!
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Dutch bishop: Call God 'Allah' to ease relations
AMSTERDAM - A Roman Catholic Bishop in the Netherlands has proposed people of all faiths refer to God as Allah to foster understanding, stoking an already heated debate on religious tolerance in a country with one million Muslims.
Bishop Tiny Muskens, from the southern diocese of Breda, told Dutch television on Monday that God did not mind what he was named and that in Indonesia, where Muskens spent eight years, priests used the word "Allah" while celebrating Mass.
"Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? ... What does God care what we call him? It is our problem."
A survey in the Netherlands' biggest-selling newspaper De Telegraaf on Wednesday found 92 percent of the more than 4,000 people polled disagreed with the bishop's view, which also drew ridicule.
"Sure. Lets call God Allah. Lets then call a church a mosque and pray five times a day. Ramadan sounds like fun," Welmoet Koppenhol wrote in a letter to the newspaper.
Gerrit de Fijter, chairman of the Protestant Church in the Netherlands, told the paper he welcomed any attempt to "create more dialogue", but added: "Calling God 'Allah' does no justice to Western identity. I see no benefit in it."
A spokesman from the union of Moroccan mosques in Amsterdam said Muslims had not asked for such a gesture.
Religious tensions on the rise
Signs of tension had already surfaced in the last two weeks after the head of a committee for former Muslims was attacked and populist anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders called for the Koran to be banned.
Bishop Muskens, who will shortly retire, has raised eyebrows in the past with suggestions that those who are hungry may steal bread and that condoms should be permissible in the fight against HIV and AIDS.
Some Dutch Muslims welcomed his comments as a valuable gesture of support coming just days after Wilders branded the Quran a "fascist book" in the vein of Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" which legitimizes violence.
Wilders, whose new party won nine seats out of the 150 in parliament in last November's elections, is well known for his firebrand remarks on Islam.
He said an attack by two Moroccans and a Somali on the head of a Dutch group for "ex-Muslims" had spurred him to write.
Issues of immigration and integration had faded from the Dutch political agenda over the last year, after a period of unprecedented social tension sparked by the 2004 murder of Theo Van Gogh, a filmmaker critical of Islam, by a Muslim militant.
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I must say I find it hysterically funny that Bush has actually done more to secure the border than the last 8 Presidents combined and never made the border a campaign issue and nonetheless takes ALL of the blame for a situation that has been around for decades. Even if you ignore the beefed up Border Patrol and Predator drones patrolling the border he's certainly no worse than any of the others. So what's changed? Why are we so worried about Mexicans now? First we voted in DEMOCRATS that gave them free healthcare, free welfare, food stamps etc. and now we're unhappy it's blowing up in our faces? Get government out of the business of providing charity and most of our problems with illegals will go away. Hell most of our "urban" problems would be solved if we stopped enabling people to ignore their responsibilities to themselves, their children and their fellow citizens which is nothing more than carrying their own weight.
Hello. DaGroaner
Nah, I don't blame him for the crimigrant issue. I completely agree, this has been simmering for many years. Even when the Californians voted in Prop. 69 to eliminate virtually all social services to non-citizens it was subsequently overturned by the Supreme Court. (How do you "overturn" a voted mandate?)
I just was hoping for a whole lot more from Jorge. His buddy-buddy relationship with Vicente Fox, his refusal to put his ("our") foot down and read the riot act to them when there are incursions onto our soil by armed, uniformed Mexican military personnel protecting smugglers, his "sponsoring" of the "crimigrant amnesty" bill that just recently got defeated despite all the arm-wrenching by Jorge....
I just expected a little more "representation" than what we have been receiving from him.
While I don't blame him for creating the problem, he damn sure has not been much of a solution, either.
BTW, it was just announced last week that Anglo's are now officially a minority in Harris County, TX. That is the county that encompasses the Houston metropolitan area. Naturalized Mexicans and crimigrants are the majority by a narrow "official" margin, and by a huge "un-official" margin.
Wwy are we "worried about the crimigrants now?" Shit, I recall when Americans felt like we had a Country to call our own. I'm starting to feel like a Palastinian!
Respectfully posted,
guido2 in Houston
I was never high on Jorge. I knew he was a liberal Republican when I held my nose and voted for him in the General Election of 2000 with the full understanding that I was voting against Algore and not for Bush. I did not vote for him in the 2000 Primary Election. I expected him to be similar to his father and with that in mind, I must say he has exceeded any expectations I had of him. I am not happy about the border situation but I'm not going to buy into the Blame Bush for EVERYTHING mindset that has possessed so many. His performance as CIC has been great, this is by far the least costly invasion/occuppation in terms of American lives lost than any in the history of modern warfare. His tax policy has been brilliant in direct contrast to his father's. It's a damn shame he didn't cut Congressional spending while he was increasing the revenue to the Treasury because he directly negated the positives of his tax policy by rubber stamping every wasteful spending bill that landed on his desk. His new Medicare entitlement is shameful. I just wish people who claim to value their freedom wouldn't be so quick to dismiss his good points as this plays right into the hands of the Democrat Socialist Party, which is the real threat to our freedom.
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I must say I find it hysterically funny that Bush has actually done more to secure the border than the last 8 Presidents combined and never made the border a campaign issue and nonetheless takes ALL of the blame for a situation that has been around for decades. Even if you ignore the beefed up Border Patrol and Predator drones patrolling the border he's certainly no worse than any of the others. So what's changed? Why are we so worried about Mexicans now? First we voted in DEMOCRATS that gave them free healthcare, free welfare, food stamps etc. and now we're unhappy it's blowing up in our faces? Get government out of the business of providing charity and most of our problems with illegals will go away. Hell most of our "urban" problems would be solved if we stopped enabling people to ignore their responsibilities to themselves, their children and their fellow citizens which is nothing more than carrying their own weight.
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Groaner -It's the law! BUT it is only enforced SELECTIVELY. If you are hiring employees it is you'r responsibity to check their documents. This is not new, it has been the law for years. BUT as I say it is only enforced SELECTIVELY. Loyal "Bushies" do not get visits from INS.
LMMFAO!!! Did you hear that at the Union Bar...err Hall? What evidence did they offer to convince you?
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"USA Border. Anyone caught crossing illegally WILL be shot. Post this sign along all our borders. The East Germans had orders to shootb anyone LEAVING illegally. It's only right we shoot hose ENTERING illegally.
What frosts MY lilly is that as an American citizen, I have to PROVE I am a citizen to get a job. But there are MILLIONS of illegals working, WHY are they allowed to work? The people who employn them need to be rounded up and prosecuted. That is the law, but it is not enforced.They are complaining that it is "too hard" to check ssn's against names. BUT if you are a union member you have to submit 3 forms of proof that you are an American-an ORIGIONAL birth certificate, an ORIGIONAL Social Security card, and
either a DD214 or selective service card, or a American high school diploma. That is the law of the land, but only union labor is required to submit the paperwork. If you are a rat contractor there is no enforcement of the law.
The law is the same for all Americans-let's enforce it equally. Employers of illegal aliens are themselves CRIMINALS. As are the illegals. We don't need more laws, we need more laws ENFORCED.
The law is that w have a Border Patrol to enforce the border. Wy should the private employer be required to enforce immigration laws or be prosecuted? It's their job to provide what ever goods and services they offer, not to do the Federal governments job for them.
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If you still have it I will take it.
I sent you a PM. I'm on vacation and will be back on the 13th and can't ship before then. PM me if you want to pay for it and I'll ship it on the 13th.
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I just picked up a NIB Glock 20(Born Oct.2006) w/Trijicon nightsights, 3 mags, and with a ghost 3.5 disconnector installed for $475. I put a LW ported barrel in it and picked up another .40 so I can always shoot that in a pinch. I think I scored big time.
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What Thomas Jefferson learned
from the Muslim book of jihad
By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
January 2007
Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United States congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States during his ceremonial swearing-in.
Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's swearing-in photo opportunity drew more media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House. Ellison represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota.
The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of the Library of Congress. It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived in the library.
Ellison, who was born in Detroit and converted to Islam while in college, said he chose to use Jefferson's Quran because it showed that "a visionary like Jefferson" believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.
There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom could be "gleaned" from the Muslim Quran. At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli.
Ellison's use of Jefferson's Quran as a prop illuminates a subject once well-known in the history of the United States, but, which today, is mostly forgotten - the Muslim pirate slavers who over many centuries enslaved millions of Africans and tens of thousands of Christian Europeans and Americans in the Islamic "Barbary" states.
Over the course of 10 centuries, Muslim pirates cruised the African and Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and seizing slaves.
The taking of slaves in pre-dawn raids on unsuspecting coastal villages had a high casualty rate. It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as many of the "non-Muslim" older men and women as possible so the preferred "booty" of only young women and children could be collected.
Young non-Muslim women were targeted because of their value as concubines in Islamic markets. Islamic law provides for the sexual interests of Muslim men by allowing them to take as many as four wives at one time and to have as many concubines as their fortunes allow.
Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create eunuchs who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the Middle East. Muslim slave traders created "eunuch stations" along major African slave routes so the necessary surgery could be performed. It was estimated that only a small number of the boys subjected to the mutilation survived after the surgery.
When American colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776, American merchant ships lost Royal Navy protection. With no American Navy for protection, American ships were attacked and their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the "Dey of Algiers"--an Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.
Because American commerce in the Mediterranean was being destroyed by the pirates, the Continental Congress agreed in 1784 to negotiate treaties with the four Barbary States. Congress appointed a special commission consisting of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin, to oversee the negotiations.
Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the Mediterranean, the new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by agreeing to pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized American ships and buy the freedom of enslaved sailors.
Adams argued in favor of paying tribute as the cheapest way to get American commerce in the Mediterranean moving again. Jefferson was opposed. He believed there would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted matters settled "through the medium of war." He proposed a league of trading nations to force an end to Muslim piracy.
In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain.
The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote to appease.
During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.
In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."
For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.
Not long after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he dispatched a group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean, and informed Congress.
Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but not one cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying American Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary Coast.
The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action.
In 1805, American Marines marched across the desert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all American slaves.
During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States, crumbling as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on shore raids by Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and piracy.
Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine Hymn, with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli, We fight our country's battles in the air, on land and sea."
It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total defeat of all the Muslim slave trading pirates.
Jefferson had been right. The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem. Mr. Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was a "visionary" wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own Muslim book of jihad.
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No it isn't, wasn't it Andrew Jackson or other prominent American government official who had a copy of it converted so he could better understand the Arabs who were muslims?
IIRC it was Thomas Jefferson when he was fighting the barbary pirates to the shores of Tripoli. This has been going on a long time and the idiot half of this country just doesn't get it.
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I just received two beautiful Russian bakelite mags from him that bought for my sons. Needless to say both boys are very happy and I'm very jealous. They came well packaged and were shipped very quickly.
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Alright... I got two more bakelites (excellent condition) for sale. After these two, they will be all gone... for good. These are the last two in my stash, I was gonna keep them, but I could use the $$ more.
$65 shipped each (USPS money order or PP + 3.5%).
I'll take them... again.
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A Best of Dio / Sabbath CD I burned for myself.
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I have two more bakelites for sale. They are pretty much the same dark reddish color as the one pictured above.
I also have one Polish polymer for sale!
PM me if you're interested.
I'll take the two bakelites.
Pm coming
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The dumbasses have never heard of Acepromazine?
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THREAD OBSERVATIONS:
#1 - "It's easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission" - That is so true.
#2 - "Leans to the left" - I enjoyed the heck out of chicks that leaned to the left in my youth but I married a right-winger. That can be a PITA too.
#3 - "I've had that one forever" - Always good in a pinch but if you get caught it's gone forever and then you're left with #1.
#4 "Brothers before Hoes" - Yeah right up until a fine piece of tail comes along...
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My buddy has one that I borrow all the time to go plinkin'. (A GOOD buddy!) His will FTF or FTE when it's dirty, but you gotta remember how light that spring is. Not a big deal to me, not like I'm using it for self defense. I have fun with it, and get to shoot 500 rounds a day vs. 100 rounds of .45. I think I need to bite the bullet and buy a .22 conversion for the 1911.
I have an Advantage Arms .22 kit for my Glock 27. My Glock is now my favorite .22. It never jams if I use Rem Golden Saber or CCI Mini-mags or Stingers but lots of the old .22 ammo I have lying around fails to do one thing or another in it. I pretty much stick to the Remy stuff cause it's cheap, accurate and reliable. My sons are each hitting me up for a P22. The 15 year-old wants the Carbon Fiber and my 11 year-old wants Desert Camo. I think they're going to get their wish.
FYI: Classic Arms has Bullpups
in Saiga 7.62 X 39
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