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It did not ship with any mounts, and I hear the S12 mount is like $250... my SBS is in pieces right now but what motivation to assemble!

Got a delivery yesterday from the UPS guy: Its not mine but I got to handle it a bit. Its HUGE - like over a foot long and 2.2 pounds - here it is next to a 9mm Wraith: I guess you can take sections of it out, but it has rails down the tube to contain the wad: Front End: It has not been mounted but I would think the weight/length at the end of any barrel over probably 10 inches would be very cumbersome. Still, totally cool to see. The future of tube guns!:(web pic)

Thank you Jim. I have a Tromix tube in hand and will hack at it now that I know what i am up against. I appreciate the assistance.

so I should not feel bad destroying the existing gas tube, right?

sorry double post, nothing to see here.. my bad.

Well that would explain it.

It seems like the fluted gas tube is extraordinarily difficult to seperate from the part that attaches it to the front trunion section - is there a special method to removal? Thanks!

It seems like the fluted gas tube is extraordinarily difficult to seperate from the part that attaches it to the front trunion section - is there a special method to removal? Thanks!

because I want to be able to mount the full length handguard.

I searched a bit and found this AR10 gas block: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/482126/doublestar-gas-block-single-picatinny-rail-ar-15-lr-308-aluminum-mattem It may serve as a good start - I am imagining it upside down for the picatiny rail to act as the material to tap for the handguard screw - I know its a half ass solution... but it just may work...

I have access however no talent, and therefore am paying retail for the turning down and other machine services. I saw a gas block cadiz sold on ebay for $150. It costs more than $150 to have someone fab the part 1 off. If anyone here possesses the skill and ambition to do so I am interested in meeting you! I may shop it around a bit but the chop method was considered cost effective under the circumstances. Edit: I slept on it and thought perhaps just a steel sleeve with a nut welded to it would do the job, and may move forward with an idea like that.

That would be the most logical move. I just don't have the gas block. Yet.

I am happy with the 12.5" - I have a Chaos Rail that goes over the top cover and mounts at the original gas block area. I really wanted to keep the gas in the same place to keep the rail mount available, but I am trying now to move the gas block back 2.25 so I can use the Tromix piston/tube (BTW how do you get the gas tube off from the piece that mounts to the trunion?) I am then hoping to round up an additional gas block and mount in the original position, but cut the top off that holds the piston and just have it as a handguard mount. So if I fuck up the filling of the holes I will have

Its 12.5". I'm in pretty deep by now so turning back is not an option... I should probably send that stuff out to you anyway it can't hurt, right? You already did a number on my carrier so I think the hammer is the only other thing touching.

I did not get it but do now.... thats some stellar work you have there in the photo. Thank you for the info!