I found at www.gunbroker.com an auction for eight rounders. They claim they have 50 in stock, well after this auction it'll be 47. They ARE shipping these out of Russia . I E-mailed them and they responded within a couple hours. I asked about shipping to the USA, what problems there could be with imports and customs. They claim they ship them in parts wich takes care of any of those problems. Gunbroker.com warranties up to $500 for frauds or loss during shipping($100 deductible). Additional insurance can be purchased through the seller which I am going to buy. I'm sure it will take awhile to