MikeD
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Yeah, me too...
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I wonder what pushed him over the edge. Definitely appears to be a form of suicide. Crazy...
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Also the Lynx was designed by SDS. They provided all drawings for production. They are the only name on the gun. The contracted for it to be built. Not the same as all those Turkish guns that everyone puts their own unique name and model on. Saying they aren’t the manufacture is the same as saying Apple doesn’t manufacture the IPhone.
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These looks cool and are just straight slab side prototypes. Wouldn’t take much ribbing, etc, to really dress them up either...
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A polymer double stack could look really nice. Even cooler than an single stack actually. Just knowing it has more capacity in a shorter length will help the look as well... My vision for a Saiga-12 double stack is to have a comparable price to a single stack. Not some jacked up price that keeps single stacks viable... What happened to the Mossberg mag won’t be happening again. Not in price or design... Prices of those have come down a lot though. It’s easy to find a 20rd for $70 to $80 now but still high in my opinion.
The truth of it is a single stack mag can’t even compete in a price war with a double stack. It takes less material to make a 10rd double than it does a 10rd single. That also means it will be lighter than it’s single stack counterpart. Being shorter and closer to the gun will also mean it will be better balanced and will have less recoil and backlash forces on it as well. Make no mistake that a polymer double stack for the Saiga-12 on my watch would be second to none, including OEM mags. Making everything else VERY obsolete. The market would be absolutely flooded with so many used single stacks...
I also have something that will make all prior drums just as obsolete as doubles will make single stacks. Patent pending on that as well..
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The only issue with inventory on the Gunfixer plug is that I ran out of stock. I do recall him making accuastations after stock ran out and they wasn’t being offering for sale. It became a hassle dealing with him. His approach sealed the deal that their would be no more produced as well and hastened me purchasing my own CNC Lathe and producing my own design. Problem solved. Every single plug sold sold had his cut sent to him. Had he kept his end of the deal and not came off with the accusations it is likely I would have ran a few more thousand of his design. He can only blame himself that it didn’t last longer.
The market is definitely dead but SDS sold around 3000 of their new 10rd mag within the first 30 days of it’s release. I’m guessing that has dropped off since but really don’t know the volume after the initial release.
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Not sure what happened there with some stuff being larger text. I rearranged some with copy and paste and that’s what it did...
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It’s not that I didn’t trust you. If I don’t trust someone they don’t get a deal considered to begin with regardless how good and protected it was going to be on paper. The more talking that happens though the less I do trust in the sense of being an overall good choose for a licensee holder and the better I feel about having ruled out you as an option... I doubt you could keep up with production anyways. I built the drums in batches of 10,000... If the market picks back up 10,000 wouldn’t cut it for double stacks...
Typically as a licensee you submit a monthly report and the licensor is allow to audit once a year. It all just depends on the specific agreement. There are ways to make production accountable but it’s not usually practices kept in place by smaller companies.
The only issue I had with producing the Gunfixer Plug was Gunfixer not keeping up with their own records like they were suppose to. And a little public complaining from them when I decided to make a much better plug and not produce theirs anymore. I originally had plans to make my own from the beginning anyways. I needed one to release right away though. So I worked out a deal to produce the Gunfixer design. He had no means or capital to produce them in an affordable fashion or to market them in mass. It was a verbal agreement. I kept every word of my end but not so much on Gunfixers end. We didn’t work in auditing of production but it would have been easy at the time. At the time I outsourced the part. I started making my own design in house. It worked out for everyone for a while. Gunfixer said he never received such a large check in his life and had to stare at it awhile... Here is the big thing though. I could have just copied his design to begin with and not offered a penny. It’s not like it was a protected design. I didn’t do that to him though. Think anyone that copied the Gunfixer plug almost to a T gave him anything? I contacted him and sent sent him 5 digit check... Bet you or anyone else for that matter doesn’t offer me the same consideration when my patents run out and it’s no longer protected. You almost imply I ripped him off with inventory claims with your placement of that statement. Is that what you are saying?
Unlike Gunfixer I do have the means to produce a double stack all by myself. Did it with the drum, which was a much more complicated project, with a fraction the knowledge, experience or capital available and zero credibility with no past proven product... I’d rather not take it all on again like that for a Saiga-12 double stack. It’s definitely not that I can’t handle it though...
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I first pointed out on the forum here that this needed to be done around 2007 or 2008. The russians most have overlooked it because most the ammo over there is longer than ours here and the condition didn’t happen with their ammo.
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2 hours ago, SickSilverado said:
I just put about 175 rounds through my Lynx 12 today. Fired and ejected everything when set on the appropriate gas setting. Mostly 1300+ fps target loads and some universal 7 1/2 birdshot. Mods were new grip, Molot muzzle brake, tubular handguard, some BCG polishing/smoothing, hammer and sear polishing, M4 tube/GL-Shock stock. It was fun but that 5 round mag got old quickly. Gonna add a magwell and grab some 8 and 10 rounders. My Mossberg shockwave was my fun gun before...now it's definitely my Lynx. Can't wait to let my family and friends try it.
Get you a 20rd MD-20 drum from MAA or DEGUNS because the 8 and 10 rd mags will get old fast too, lol.
I have been blowing out a few on Gunbroker. Had just a few that DEGUNS was suppose to get but never did. Held them around 14 months for them and last I spoke to them I mentioned them but no reply back on them so I decided to dump them myself.
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The K-USA has a gas plug that is the same as the Saiga-12. Only 2 settings. The chamber volume with that plug is really large. It is inefficient for low power ammo and let’s in way too much gas for most high power ammo. It requires a tool to depress the pin to adjust it. It lets a lot of fouling get to the threads easily. I really wish the K-USA and Lynx both would have been stock with a better plug. The V-Plug was kick ass for an adjustable plug. It was the best I could do with the gun I had to work with. Most of the other plugs that changed stuff lost effectiveness for low power ammo because they didn’t really understand what stuff was doing. The Auto Plug was a nice idea but could have been better. They still were somewhat over gases with high power ammo allowing excessive wear.
The K-USA and Lynx could make a couple slight changes to the gun and come stock with an adjustable gas plug like I wished I could have made for the Saiga-12. Better yet would be to design a better self regulating plug that required no adjusting and one that didn’t over gas with high power ammo. If they would do this the gun would be much more reliable with low power ammo and stay much cleaner. It wouldn’t have excessive wear with high power ammo. The big thing to is the customer could spend their money on something other than a replacement part and have a worthless part they removed. It could mean an extra mag that they could use or money toward some other accessory. Screw the aftermarket because a better part should come stock on the gun is my feelings.
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That’s a definite reason a deal couldn’t be made. No one in their right mind or business sense would give a licensing agreement to someone with no way to verify sales. Any serious lisensing agreement comes with the ability for the lisensor to audit the licensee both on production and sales. That is just standard business practice for things like this.
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8 hours ago, kindapointless said:
It looks like it is at an angle. Kind of a redneck test but putting in the plug a couple a couple times when clean it looks like the lead thread on the gas plug gets folded over a tiny bit so I'm guessing its hitting the pin as it goes all the way in. New gas plug and a bit of thread chasing should fix it.
After 300 slugs on position 1 (150 each range visit) gun is running ok but won't feed more then 5 rounds out of a magazine and dosent like the drums at all. Position 2 felt over gassed with same slugs. Guessing to much drag with mag tension. Dont want to smooth anything out till I figure out the muzzle threads since AWS is very clear that warranty is void if you do just about anything to it.
The number 2 setting is way too much gas for some high brass rounds. The number 1 setting is not enough for most. It is a poorly thought out gas plug. Better than the original Saiga-12 gas plug though.
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Do you know if the gas plug is the stock Lynx plug? Can you post a picture of it?
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Seriously scratching my head on why they didn’t rethread the barrel on this gun. But I guess I scratch my head on why they kept the same flawed gas plug when they built the base gun as well...
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The tab is typically welded to the front underside of the dust cover. The carrier bounces up as the rod stub leaves the tube. The tab reduces the amount of pry and resistance the bounce can cause against the rails and also keeps the stub down low enough that it doesn’t crash into the the upper edge of the tube on it’s return.
Ill have to get me one of those Spetz and check out what they are doing.
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Glad things are going well for you!
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On 3/18/2019 at 2:08 PM, saltydecimator said:
And this is how rivalries are born.
Will we see csspecs double stacks when patent runs out? Prooooiobably!
Lol. I definitely don’t consider them a rival. I explored the idea of a licensing agreement with them and didn’t like the resposivness or receptiveness. Also they are a smaller company and that can make accountability trickier as far as royalties go. Not saying I didn’t trust them or anything like that though but it’s definitly things to consider.
The first patent runs out in 2033. Ccspecs brother had concerns certain geometry wasn’t stampable. Another stamper, a giant company, said it couldn’t be stamped as well. Honestly I don’t buy that though. I’m not even in that field and see a super simple solution and have no doubt their are others. I’ve never been much at settling for something can’t be done. More often than not I have found its more the matter if it can be done practically and I’m confidant it could be. The second patent hasn’t become official yet but will be good for 20 years from that date so probably good until around 2040. It would be a much easier design to stamp.
Honestly though before the first double stack patent runs out I will have made a double stack obsolete. 😂
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23 hours ago, saltydecimator said:
I still don’t believe it. Granted I haven’t owned the lynx, the metal is always mysterious, corners are cut, and lacks spit and polish and fit and finish. Can you give better examples of “this is better” than saiga? I won’t contest that the russkies let out some crap, but worst things it had goin for it was some unpainted parts, and some blocked gas blocks. Those things would be remedied with a work force that actually cared about the product it was producing.
I know what you mean but it is true. The fit and finish puts the Saiga-12 to shame on all I have seen. I have 2 of them as well. These are made in the same factory that produced the type 56 AK. Plus SDS was demanding quality. I constantly see the lead engineer making trips to China as well. Probably once a month or close to it. Likely because you do have to keep your eye on China. China does have access to quality material, weather they use it or not is largely based on if the contractor demands it. At the price of them you should just get one and see for yourself. It’s going to blow your mind because it sure blew mine!
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On 3/15/2019 at 2:35 AM, csspecs said:
I would not get much hope up.... Mike at MDarms won't even give a price per unit.
My view is that I need at least 10-12 months to make a product. The 2020 elections are only ?? 20 months away... Anyway I would need to hear something really soon and something good so that we could roll on this fast and hard... Much more time goes by and the value is gone because you can't sell it.. I need at least six to twelve months of sales to break even on a project like this... So I need to hear back like now or honestly last month if this was going to happen, otherwise you are wasting your time. Because I don't have enough time to break even.
At the end of the day Mike at MDarms needs to get this done if it is ever going to happen. He teased this product a decade ago, that is a long long time..
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He says he has some other people talking about it.. So maybe something happens?
2020 is a big wild card since pretty much every single democrat is saying gun bans and confiscation, even saying to change the SCOTUS by stacking the court to make it possible.. Obama said he was not going to take anyones guns during the 2008 elections, after he won you could hardly buy a box of ammo, so for contrast 2020 is likely going to be a pretty wild ride, 2021 will likely be a total famine for gun parts sellers if trump wins again, or a bust out sale followed by being shut down and sued out of existence... Either way 2020 and 2021 are going to be very unpleasant.
Our talks never got to the point of discussing numbers because you left it off at if you could even do it. Maybe one message you claimed to send didn’t go through but honestly having a hard time that 3 didn’t. Other ways I could have been reached by someone that was serious as well. You never showed any real interest and said your brother didn’t either on more than one occasion. Not going to let you pass the buck off on me why our talks never went anywhere. At this point that boat has sailed as well. Not trying to insult or anything like that but it is what it is and it went how I said.
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8 hours ago, patriot said:
...and they have ZERO scruples about making absolute trash. It's all about the Benjamins. No honor at all.
Stop watching them for a second and see what you get.
Lead paint on kids toys for one. Look it up. the list is endless.
The company I work for REFUSES to make garbage.
Yeah, China has an utter shit government. Why those people don’t rise up and hang them all blows my mind. Sheep...
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The big reason the quality is better is SDS demanded it and paid for it. They even have ever single hammer forged bolt x-rayed... The Chinese can make good stuff. The problem is most companies that contract work from them don’t demand it and want to pay as little as possible. That’s why the Catamount line is such junk and some others. Also most stuff China makes themselves to sell is junk. They get away with all they can. Look at all the counterfeit junk they make for export. Bearings, batteries, and on and on...
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Does this fit look right?
in Saiga-12
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It actually looks like that tang on the barrel made contact and bent inward. It should be straight. It might be contacting there first and causing the bolt to collide in other places it shouldn’t be...