Gandalf
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The best price I've seen locally was about $370. I've been really tempted to get one but I'm just not sure at that price.
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email sent for any remaining mags
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I posed this in another thread, how about using some of the plastic edge liner that is found on car/truck doors/fenders
like this: http://specialtauto.com/delorean-parts/ima...r-edge-trim.jpg
or
http://www.care4car.com/productimages/1697...gh%20200pix.jpg
If the edge liner fits right without interfering with the bolt carrier it looks like it would be a good idea.
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Bad Bob,
In a realistic scenario, the body armor that consistantly stops both 7.62x39 and 5.56 is a ballistic plate insert. Kevlar alone won't.
As for Old_Painless's test, it was in response to the urban myth that a metal AK round could work as a sort of ballistic plate. O_P tested that myth and showed within reason that it was bunk. As for the range, in Iraq I bet a lot of combat ranges are 50 feet or less, especially in urban combat. Personally, with my own limited tests, I doubt you'd find much difference in penetration performance between 50 feet and 100 yards.
Don't read too much into O_P's tests, though. I'm sure he doesn't. He mostly does them because, "shooting things is fun."
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Hey Bad Bob,
Without corporate sponsorship, the "boxotruth" site is about as good as you're gonna get from lay man's testing. As for the ranges used, since most combat takes place at ranges well under 200 meters, a 50 yard test is just fine. While it isn't exact science, it's way beyond, "hold my beer and watch this."
If you feel that Old_Painless's tests are bogus or not done properly, please feel free to set up your own, photograph the results, and post them for all of us to review. I can assure you that O_P is about as down to earth, no BS as you'll ever find in a man.
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I bought some Federal XM193 to try in my Saiga because I heard so many good reports at the
I have not tried it yet, and now I'm a little nervous about giving it a try.
Has anyone else fired the Federal XM193 ammo in their Saiga?
Thanks
Moonlitin
I ran about 40 rounds of XM193 through my Saiga without any problems. I did notice that it seemed a little hotter. Of course, I assumed that it was safe to use. It probably is, but like Vjor indicated, it's your personal risk.
I stick to .223 now. I still have a bit of XM193 around, but I'm saving it for a rainy/post hurricane/roving-gangs-of-looters/stuff-hits-the-fan day.
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IndyArms,
I keep getting distracted by your great avatar.
Anyway, in my limited experience the Saiga .223 can be as accurate as a stock AR15. A long time ago I posted about a competition we had involving a bunch of the boys and a few of the parents from my neighborhood. It was the stock Saiga .223 vs AR15 with muzzlebreak.
The highest scores from both the boys and the parents came from the Saiga. The Saiga didn't group as consistantly, but was on target more often.
Since then I've converted the Saiga to pistol grip, and we're looking at doing a rematch sometime in the next two months. Now that I have the G2 trigger and a pistol grip setup (more ergonomic for me) in the Saiga, I'm really looking forward to it's performance against the Bushmaster.
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I'm tempted to do the same thing, using PVC for the bullet guide as a temporary solution. If it gets worn out, it certainly won't cost much or take much trouble to replace.
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I have installed a muzzle brake.
Did you have to remove the front sight?
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Yes I had have problems with Kalinka two times, they lie to me
and I do not do business with people that lie, instead of coming
right out front and tell me.
Well I hope you find what you were looking for, one suggestion
if you have the money, the Russian cobra collimator is the best
for close quarters.
Thanks again everyone. I want something that has a little magnification to take advantage of the .223's inherent accuracy (and compensate for my less than perfect eyesight) while still providing a good field of view.
Cobra sights are sure useful, but don't provide any magnification at all. The 4X sights are ok, but they restrict the field of view more than I prefer.
Vjor, I'll take your experience into consideration.
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Well, I've done my research and it looks like I can get the scope I want and replace the clamp on it for about $12. No big deal.
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Try this link for scopes
They have larges diversity of russian scopes.
http://www.nightvisionweb.com/index.htm
http://www.akoptics.com/index.asp
before you go into changin things.
Kalinka sucks.
Thanks Vjor.
Have you had bad experiences with Kalinka?
I wanted their PSO 2.5x18 with 12 degree field of view for my Saiga .223. The low magnification and wide field of view seem perfect for that kind of rifle.
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I would also be interested in how one attaches a flash hider to a saiga 308.
Has anyone here done this?
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I want to buy a scope from Kalinka Optics for my Saiga. Problem is that the specific scope I want only comes with the SKS/SVD scope mount, and it supposedly won't mount on the Saiga's AK rail!
How hard is it to change the rail on the side of a Saiga to one of the SKS/SVD rails? Has anyone done this?
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MrApathy2000,
I like it! I was just recently thinking about how to attach a verticle grip.
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So do you have to have your US compliance parts to be able to use these?
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Anybody have the transcript?
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So I assume we have to put in enough US parts to legally use these?
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Link?
I went to their website and couldn't find anything on the new mags.
Never mind, I found it. Unbelieavable.
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Anybody heard yet when EAA expects to receive the magazines? They should know by now, but they don't seem to want to tell. It's almost a month since the AWB ended, for goodness sakes.
There's also no reason why they shouldn't be able to give us ballpark price figures. Izhmash should know how much it's costing them, so why doesn't EAA know how much they're going to charge us?
Seriously, if they try taking advantage of me and ask for more than $16/mag, I'll just convert my rifle to take standard mags and write EAA off. Right now I'm getting my conversion parts together, and haven't stocked up on standard magazines because I wanted to see if EAA will give me a reason to save myself the trouble of adding a feedramp or grinding down the front lugs.
EAA,
Please tell me I have a reason to buy mags from you.
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The question is not why do we have P-grips, but rather why didn't we before, if that's the natural position of the hand?
The reason is that until the past half century, the bayonet was a major weapon in war. Long arms with limited capacity doubled as pole arms when their bullets ran out. Even more so with the single shot muzzle loader. Notice as the bayonet declined in significance the pistol grips slowly began to appear, starting with curved sections of standard stocks.
Those who claim a P-grip makes something evil have no clue what they're talking about. Having a P-grip means a gun is better suited for shooting than for impaling.
I can agree with this assessment.
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I have short arms and the 12+" sporterized stock isn't comfortable for me. The long stock essentially puts the receiver way out in front of me and the rifle becomes way too front heavy. When I wear a heavy coat the rifle becomes even harder to use.
A pistol grip with allow me to bring the rifle closer into my shoulder for more comfortable shooting and better balance.
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Other than perhaps the length of the magazine, how different are the dimensions of 5.56 AK mags and 5.45 mags?
Do they have the same width from side to side and front to back?
I'm looking at different magazines for my Saiga, and obviously there is more selection in the 5.45 magazines. If the only effective difference is the follower, than I'm going to stock up on the 5.45 mags and just swap out the followers (and maybe the floor plate for parts count purposes).
Of course, my other concern is how well they lock up in the magwell. Is there a difference in how a bulgy .223 and bulgy 5.45 lock up? Do EG bakelite mags lock up just as well (they're obviously the cheapest)? Naturally this ties into the dimensions question.
Lots of questions, I know, but they're important in deciding what mags I want to buy for my Saiga.
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I don't know for sure, but I hear 26" is the magic number for federal standards. State laws may vary. Better check your state laws.
Picture Post ,Lets see your .223!
in Saiga .223
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I am really impressed! Very nice. I'm curious to know how the cheek-weld is on the conversions using the AR-style collapsible buttstocks? Right now I have a Romy sidefolder on my Saiga conversion but it's a bit awkward as far as cheek-weld's go. With prominant cheek bones, one of my problems with a lot of buttstocks is that I can't comfortably get my eyes low enough to use the irons very well.