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Are you referring to an angled fore grip? If so, there are many on the market. Another possibility is a multi/5-position vertical fore grip. I hope this helps. -
The mod makes the Saiga more user friendly. Check out the pinned thread by Moe Zambeak. Read it completely a couple of times before starting and refer to it throughout the process. Have fun!
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You may have to download the mag by 1 round. One round less may take the pressure off enough to prevent round deformation.
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I've seen items fail that were 3d printed. You may want to test these magazines for durability before use.
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remember to look at the 922r section. While I haven't heard of anyone running afoul of the ATF over these SG's, I don' think you want to be the first. That being said CSS or Carolina Shooters Supply has a performance puck that has a nipple on the piston side. This makes the puck remain in constant contact with the piston instead of rattling. When you fire your shotty the recoil impulse will be longer as the puck shoves rather than strikes the piston. One of the other vendors made the observation that when he had been doing some work on one of this type of shotty, he had left some masking tape on the action rail inside the receiver after doing some work on it. When he put it back together and took it to the range. when it jammed due to the tape, on a whim he changed the original puck for the nippled puck it worked like a top. When he switched it back it jammed. I picked up one of these pucks as a result with good results.
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Welcome to the forum! I had joined a couple of years after having gotten a S-12. I had been looking for a box fed shotgun when I read an article about the Saiga in one of the gun magazines. Some time after having gotten one, I heard about this forum and found a lot of information that is very useful.
That being said, you will want to check out the section of the forum regarding 922r. It covers the import laws. It has a parts count that means no more than ten imported parts in the shotgun so you can use magazines that hold more than five rounds. It could be a federal beef, but I haven't heard of this happening. Frankly, I wouldn't want to be one to test it. Besides, the conversion makes for better ergonomics.
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First, have some idea where you want the vfg to be placed.Then remove the forearm. Use a tape measure or other means to find the center of the bottom of the forearm. Place the forearm where you want it and hold it in place while you use a drill bit the same diameter as the mounting hole in the rail and twist the bit with your hand to mark the forearm to properly center the mark. Use the proper size drillbit to make holes in the forearm. Mount the forearm using blue Loctite in case you want to remove the rail sometime in the future. I hope this helps.
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If you're so inclined and haven't done so yet, check out Moe Zambeak's guide to conversion. It's the seventh pinned post and has a lot of good information. When I first got my S12, it was in its original (import) configuration. With the help of his post, I was able to complete the conversion to a configuration that is more user friendly, and, theoretically, won't run afoul of 922r (see the post (pinned) about 922r). It also gave me a better understanding of how it is put together an how it works.
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Best case for that sort of thing would be a flat plate cut to shape with various holes cut/drilled, which you would then fold for your base receiver, then add trunnions, rails, and other items to finish your receiver. I remember seeing those plates at various gun shows back in the day...
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To YOT. In one of the first articles for this sg, The writer of the article let one of the more accomplished shooters try it and he shot a perfect score. His response was "I want one!"
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Pedal2Alloy:
While it sounds neat to refer to this shotty as a 12 gauge AK47, it is better to call it a 12 gauge Kalashnikov, so as not to panic the sheeple as they have been indoctrinated by the socialists (left). Also, IIRC, thanks to the '86 GOPA rider by Tom Foley, no more select fire/full-auto wpns are allowed in civilian hands that weren't already there. It's one of the reasons we were able to successfully Ex-Foley-ate Washington...
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I have one of the CSS pucks and I've found it does, indeed, help with cycling. Two or three years ago, Pauly wrote that he had found the puck to increase reliability, with the nipple toward the op rod. When you install the puck with the nipple toward the op rod, it rests against the op rod and there is no play (rock the shotty back and forth (muzzle up then down) with a regular puck. You can feel and hear the puck move. Then swap it out for the CSS puck and rock it back and forth--you will feel or hear nothing. When the shotty is fired, the puck shoves, rather than strikes, the op rod, making for a longer push. In fact, it was Pauly's write up that decided the issue for me as far as acquiring one for my own use!
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Observation and experience-my dad's a machinist...
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I've thought about making one for my own use. It wouild entail making a threading blank out of the appropriate tool steel, after removing the hardness out of it. Thread it, mill the clearing grooves, and re-harden it. Something to that effect...
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The CSS Performance Puc should be considered, See Paulyski's thread about it. After reading about his findings, I got one and did my own informal check. I got some ammunition that wouldn't cycle with the OEM puc, then changed to the CSS puc. It allowed my S-12 to cycle flawlessly.
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I kind of wonder about FPS. He pronounced Saiga 'say-ga' rather than 'sigh-ga'. Makes me wonder...
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At this rate, you may have to fabricate your own. It's doable, with a metal brake. Who knows, if you make a decent metal mag, others may want to buy them...
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A barrel nut will effectively solve the problem. With the nut all the way on the threaded section, screw the brake all the way on to contact the nut, then back off until properly aligned, Tighten nut while holding brake in alignment.
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This reminds me of an anecdote relayed years ago: A number of experts/afficionados/et al were discussing which was better--the 45 ACP or th 9x19. A retired police chief told them they were all wrong. When he was asked what he preferred, he told them 38 special. when asked why, he replied because he had his on him and the others wer, at the time, unarmed. Rule 1: Have a gun.
That being said, my duty sidearm is close at hand when I sleep. Speaking of duty, The RCW (Revised Code of Washington)states that, if a fleeing felon can't be stopped by any other means and I believe the perp will, if not stopped, repeat with as bad or worse, the perp is fair game. Departmental ppolicy says the same thing. However; I wouldn't really want to put it to the test...
As far as their being unarmed, in the last 20 years in Seattle, a small group of young men beat a homeless man to death...precedent...
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8, not 9. The 000 pellets are 2 per layer; 00 is 3 per layer000 Buck in a .410 shell is what? Four pellets?
In 2 3/4 12ga its 9.
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Rule of Thumb for an S-12 with 19"bbl is 3 ports at .093 (3/32)", 4 at .070"...
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For close range/hostage shots I would prefer to use slugs that donl't use a wad. Other use (HD)would entail use of 000. This ball diameter, .36" (x8), was sufficient for Hickok. For general hunting would be the BRI type slug. Light use (range) would be the lightest load the S-12 will cycle.
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Welcome to the forum. If you're not familiar with the Kalashnikov platform, you have a scope-mount rail on the left side of your shotty. It is common on many variants. If you're so inclined, there are mounts available from the vendors on the home page. I hope this helps. I have one for my optic and I like it as it is a quick-release that keeps the zero. Good luck and have fun!