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  1. NEWB questions... HELP ME BUILD MY SAIGA 12!

    in Conversions and Modifications for the Saiga firearms

    Posted

    I converted mine over a decade ago and don't want to lead you astray. A friendly word of warning...there is conflicting information out there and telling the difference between good and bad advice is challenging. Search this forum extensively and practice a light touch. Certain parts are unobtanium and you do not want to bogger something by removing too much metal, enlarting ports too much, etc. I had Pauly polish my BCG and the job was so effective at lowering friction I had to get my gas system under control.

     

    Root around here and I think some of the experienced professionals will weigh in.

  2. Had my S12 for 12 yrs, finally converted.

    in Saiga-12

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    Glad you took the plunge. If you slicked up the BCG nicely, you'll have less of a gas issue. I had my BCG's (got more than one S-12) really well profiled plus I enlarged the gas ports in the barrel, so they are slightly over-gassed. Take your time and do your work in small increments. Taking material away is easy...putting it back, not so much.

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  3. How often should roof Be Replaced?

    in General Discussion - Any topic is welcome here!!!

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    I replaced my asphalt shingles based on condition, not time.

    I noticed the sudden presence of the shingle gravel showing up at the downspout discharges, and saw that the tabs were starting to curl on the shingles on the south side of the house. That was enough right there to commit to replacement. Add in that the roof was approaching 25 years of age and it was unmistakably time...that or wait for water to come in and start ruining ceilings. 

  4. Cleaned Saiga 12 and Can't Put Bolt In

    in Saiga-12

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    On 10/6/2021 at 3:00 PM, gbono2 said:

    Johnny E -- Thank you for trying to describe how to put it back together.

    I found a video online.  Even with the video, I was totally unable to reload the BCG back into the carrier.  I gave up after 2 hrs. of trying unsuccessfully.  I'm taking it into a gun shop tomorrow w/a red face to get them to put it back together. 
    I probably will never take the BCG out again.  I plan on cleaning around it.

    There is no need for any additional posts trying to help me out because it appears I am a lost cause where these Saiga's are concerned.

     

    Don't be so fatalistic. None of us were born knowing these things. Be sure to watch the gunsmith reassemble it. That way you'll learn how to fish, rather than just pay for a fish.

  5. Cleaned Saiga 12 and Can't Put Bolt In

    in Saiga-12

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    7 hours ago, gbono2 said:

    Thanks for the attempted description. I appreciate your attempt to help.  I can insert the bolt into the receiver & slide it forward until it binds up.  That is it.  How do you index the cam on the bolt?  What is a BCG?

    It makes no sense to me what you have written.  Is there a video out there showing what you have tried to verbally describe?

    I guess I'll have to take it to a gunsmith.

    First some definitions. BCG = bolt/carrier group.

    You do not insert the bolt into the receiver. First you insert the bolt into the carrier, spin the bolt around until the cam on the bolt nests in the slot on the carrier. When you then point the BCG downward, the bolt should rotate slightly but not fall out of the carrier. It is the cam on the bolt that keeps it from falling out of the carrier. If the bolt does fall out, it isn't properly oriented within the carrier. Play with is a bit and you'll see how the two interact together.

    With the barrel pointed down, you install the assembled BCG into the receiver.

    If you still need help I'll try to find some pics.

  6. Cleaned Saiga 12 and Can't Put Bolt In

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    I'll presume you can get the bolt back in the carrier. Insert the bolt tail into the carrier and index the cam on the bolt into the recess in the carrier.

    Once you've done the above, while you hold the shotgun with the muzzle pointing nearly straight down, attempt to insert the BCG. You'll notice that the bolt drop down and rotates into the proper orientation to allow you to insert the BCG into the receiver. That should be it.

  7. NEVER FORGET

    in General Discussion - Any topic is welcome here!!!

    Posted · Edited by JohnnyE

    I know two who perished that day, one in the Pentagon, and one in the south tower. I know someone who should have been in a room that morning where everyone died, but as fate would have it, they overslept and missed the fatal meeting where friends and colleagues died, and had survivor's guilt for a very long time thereafter. A dear friend,  I was best man at his wedding, saw American Airlines flight 77 streak over South Washington Blvd  just a few hundred yards ahead of him and slam into the Pentagon, his shouts into his cell phone piercing  the ears of another friend with whom he was speaking at that moment.

    Late that morning I ventured out of my office just blocks from the White House.  Driving north out of DC I saw the standard three helicopter Presidential fleet flying their usual route over the Maryland suburbs toward Camp David. This time something was very was different. They were being orbited by an F-15. Never saw that before or since. We are just a few who shall  never, ever, forget.

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  9. LRBHO

    in Saiga-12

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    5 hours ago, TO THE FLOOR IN A 63 said:

     I have one, put in by the Smith who made them. I haven’t shot it for a while but took it out a week or two ago. Unfortunately I had crappy ammo. Lots of failure to eject. 1200 FPS. Yes I know it’s a military assault shotgun. We’re gonna take it again this Sunday but I’ll be shooting buck.   I don’t xpect any problems but I will load my 2x20 and 2x12 (???) drums and an assortment of mags at home because my thumb all f***** up & I don’t want to spend time there loading and dropping shells on the ground.  Will try to report later

    I look forward to hearing how it goes. Thanks for weighing it.

    i wouldn't imagine that the failure to eject is related to the LRBHO...though I guess you see.

    Good luck!

  12. What were you doing on 9/11/01?

    in General Discussion - Any topic is welcome here!!!

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    I was in my office seven blocks from the White House surrounded by colleagues. We had the TV on and  were all trying to figure out what was going on and working to determine what we were going to do.

    At that time, my best friend of 30 years was stuck in bumper-to bumper traffic on his way to work when American Airlines flight 77 flew over South Washington Blvd about 200 yards ahead of him and crashed into the Pentagon. Someone I went on a mission to Taiwan with perished in the Pentagon.

    Finally getting out of D.C., I saw the Presidential helicopter fleet heading north from D.C. to, I presume, Camp David, following their usual route. One thing was different, though. This time, it was being orbited by an F-15. Never saw that before or since.

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  15. Forums seems to have little activity these days

    in General Discussion - Any topic is welcome here!!!

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    It's a real shame things are drying up.

     

    I learned so, so much from this site, from what to do myself to convert several S-12's, and also which vendors to trust, which parts and supplies I needed, who to rely on, and so forth.

     

    Without all that, my Saiga 12 experience, and those who relied on me, would likely have been extra expensive, or a disaster!

     

    I hope the US variant and clones are good enough to carry on the mag-fed semi-auto shotgun tradition created by the S-12, until the S-12 returns!

  17. Mossberg mag-fed pump and doublestack mag

    in General Discussion - Any topic is welcome here!!!

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    Guys, let’s not get worked up now. We are just now entering a golden age of tactical/offensive/defensive shotgun evolution/revolution. It is awesome we will get to witness it. Firearm evolution has been fairly stagnant for awhile now so this should be exciting and happy times for all of us. Let’s look to the future together.

     

    I do deserve blame and shame for not getting it out for the Saiga-12. Everything from internal issues to multiple import scares and multiple political scares stopped me over and over. I do wish I knew then what I know now because the double stacks for the Saiga-12 would have been dominating since sometime in 2010. I have a great guilt that I didn’t fix the issue of so many junk ass mag options for the platform. The double stack would have crushed them like bugs... I can’t get those years back though. Maybe things will change... Maybe enough will come in from the current deal that I say screw it and make them just because the Saiga-12 and it’s users deserve them. The Saiga-12 is still by far my favorite shotgun in the world and in my opinion the most capable by far.

     

    To clear things up though I retain the rights and control of the patent. The only thing I can’t do is give someone else the right to manufacture them for Mossberg platforms, including myself. Also they only have the right to manufacture them for a platform with their name. Everything else is wide open and a possibility.

     

    By signing this deal it brought the double stack to life in a commercial form. It will prove to everyone that yes it is very possible and yes it is very reliable. I heard they fired a pallet of ammo at Range day and didn’t have a single issue not associated with user error like short stroking the pump.

     

    The reps at Shot were telling people they plan to have a 930 version ready within a year that will take the same exact mags as the 590M. I can’t confirm/deny that myself though.

     

    I will tell you that I spoke to many major manufactures and all but one were very interested in their own platform/platforms with double stacks. The one that wasn’t interested called me yesterday with a totally different tune also, lol... That doesn’t mean every last one will produce a platform or platforms usin it. It also takes the big companies time to work through all their hoops they have to jump through too. That’s not to mention all the awesome shotgun designs that people and companies have shelved over the years because there wasn’t a truly practical way to feed them.

     

    I’ll also tell you that I have a new patent pending that will even further change the game and practicality for this class of shotguns... I do love shotguns, and all other firearms, and plan to enhance them for all of us as much as I possibly can during my stay on this rock in the void...

    Mike, thank you for bringing us up to speed. Facts, whether encouraging or discouraging, beat the hell out of rampant speculation.

     

    Don’t blame yourself for not having a perfect crystal ball. We do the best we can assessing risk. If doing something seems like a banzai run, that’s great, but it’s got to work, because you need to live to fight another day. I’m glad you didn’t commit a fatal misstep, so you can continue to conjure up more shotgun goodness.

     

    As an entrepreneur, I am thrilled you maintained control over non-Mossberg double stack applications. I guess they made you an offer for the whole kit and caboodle that you could refuse. It also tells me you see other applications for the mag. Maybe between the Saiga 12 and its clones there will be enough of a market to justify production. FYI, even thought I already have six of your drums, I would buy double stacks without any thought of how many drums or other mags I already have. As far as I am concerned, I cannot have enough mags for my AR’s, nor double stacks for my S-12’s!

     

    Best wishes to you, and for coming up with a brighter shotgun future. Keep on keeping on!

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  18. MD Arms ceases drum manufacturing and sales

    in Saiga-12

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    It’s just a matter of time for detachable magfed shotguns to becoming the norm and carve a huge and likely a majority chunk out of the shotgun market. It’s just a matter of time for double stack mags to be widely available. I also have a patent pending on a new magazine design that will further change everything to add some tickle to the tease for Johnny! Sadly though neither look likely for my favorite shotgun, the Saiga-12. Who knows what new and exciting shotgun designs will come though. Maybe a new favorite will appear. It would be awesome to design a good one. I think I would go straight to the beltfed design in my head though and skip mags all together, lol!!!!

    STOP IT! Now it's a gun porn thread.

     

    IDK about a better designed mag fed shotgun coming along and dominating the market. Technology does not always rule the day. I am old enough to remember the Beta vs. VHS videotape format war. Beta was better, VHS won.

     

    I don't need Miss America to be happy...just a handful of DS mags to keep my drums company 000.gif

  21. MD Arms ceases drum manufacturing and sales

    in Saiga-12

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    I just received this email from MD Arms. They have exited the Saiga 12 drum business. Is this a step toward preparing to offer double stack mags??

     

    We wanted to let everybody be know that we will not be producing the MD-20 drum magazine anymore.  We thank everyone who has bought and enjoyed one!  What’s out there is it so think hard before you sell one...

     

    We have also sold our entire remaining inventory.  The buyer has offered a $20 off each coupon to all of MD Arms’s past customers.  This discount will only be available for a limited time or limited quantity, which ever is reached first.   If you want another one for yourself or know someone that wants one now is the time.  When the remaining stock drys up that will be it for new in the package MD-20 magazines.  The MD-20 will know doubt start demanding a premium on its original retail price before long.   

     

    You can view and purchase the remaining drums for sale at https://www.deguns.net/saiga-drum-858578003018-p/md-20.htm?CartID=1.

    Don’t forget to enter your $20 off each discount code.  Just enter     in the coupon code field to receive it.

     

    Thanks again everyone and we hope you had a very Merry Christmas!!!!

     

    Mike Davidson

    MD Arms, LTD

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  22. Muzzle Brake Testing Video

    in Vepr-12

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    I would have been interested to see how much muzzle flip and recoil is reduced by the mass of the brake alone. Attaching lead to the muzzle would have some effect. Comparing 6 ounces of mass alone, versus the effectiveness of a 6 ounce brake, tells you how much reduction is due to the design of the gills, rather than just the mass alone. If 6 ounces of lead at the muzzle performs the same as a 6 ounce brake, it's the mass alone that's doing the work.That sort of test reveals the effectiveness of the DESIGN.

    I did one of those, and was going to mention that to Vadim. I can say that even doubling the weight had very little observable effect, but even light comps made a huge effect. It isn't the mass alone, or even primarily. That old wive's tale can die.
    Thank you.

     

    Yea I was amazed at how effective all the brakes were. I should have indeed tied a brake to the muzzle after the bare muzzle

    Test just to smash that myth once and for all, but honestly I was very pressed to do my filming that day and wanted to do the important stuff.

     

    Also, note that the lightest brake had the most effect on muzzle rise.

     

    Bad boy gunz has moved into full production of the 4oz aluminum brake. The first run was the steel one. He let me crank about 2000 rounds through that one and beat on it during competiton use to make sure it was absolutley durable. And it is.

     

    Thanks for watching guys!

     

    -V

     

    Thanks for putting it together. Your well thought out and executed program made for some real myth busting!

  23. Muzzle Brake Testing Video

    in Vepr-12

    Posted

     

    I would have been interested to see how much muzzle flip and recoil is reduced by the mass of the brake alone. Attaching lead to the muzzle would have some effect. Comparing 6 ounces of mass alone, versus the effectiveness of a 6 ounce brake, tells you how much reduction is due to the design of the gills, rather than just the mass alone. If 6 ounces of lead at the muzzle performs the same as a 6 ounce brake, it's the mass alone that's doing the work.That sort of test reveals the effectiveness of the DESIGN.

     

    I did one of those, and was going to mention that to Vadim. I can say that even doubling the weight had very little observable effect, but even light comps made a huge effect. It isn't the mass alone, or even primarily. That old wive's tale can die.

     

    Thanks for reporting this. I didn't know, didn't want to guess, and hearing from someone who's tried is real information.

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  24. Muzzle Brake Testing Video

    in Vepr-12

    Posted · Edited by JohnnyE

    I would have been interested to see how much muzzle flip and recoil is reduced by the mass of the brake alone. Attaching lead to the muzzle would have some effect. Comparing 6 ounces of mass alone, versus the effectiveness of a 6 ounce brake, tells you how much reduction is due to the design of the gills, rather than just the mass alone. If 6 ounces of lead at the muzzle performs the same as a 6 ounce brake, it's the mass alone that's doing the work.That sort of test reveals the effectiveness of the DESIGN.

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