[Saiga12]

You've got 12276 A 1 (under assault weapons and .50BMG), which bans "All AK series including but NOT limited to..." the Saiga could, conceivably, fall under this definition. But even if it doesn't, it's still moot, as the Saiga also falls under the category of assault shotgun.

 

The OP said he bought a "AAR Saiga 7.62." I assume he means 7.62x39. So the shotgun aspect doesn't matter to him.

 

I did not read the calguns.net stuff in depth, but a cursory glance seemed to say some Saigas are banned by name, both others are not -- so it depends on who the importer is. And that some CA case law supports the legality of certian Saigas, but that local DA and prosocuting attorneys might still screw with you. I suggest the OP delve into calguns with a fine tooth comb to see what they think.

 

Kalashnikov USA Saigas are banned by name. Others are not. Others would include RAA and EAA. This is a byproduct of the laws' drafters being abjectly clueless, as they couldn't tell the difference between an importer and maker.

 

It's in the link I have posted up top, at the end of the "Assault Weapons" section.

 

I hate California gun laws, and I particularly hate all the idiots elected out of San Fran (no offense to the OP) and LA who tried to micromanage my life in Kern County. Which is why I moved to Utah.

 

Like I said, if you want to use a Saiga shotty in Cali, you're going to have to Cali-strate it by making it a fixed magazine (a la California top-loading AR-15s) or make it a non-semiautomatic (a la the pump-action AK-47s you can read about on ak47.net).

 

Good luck.

[Saiga12]

[All this talk about chokes-- interest check]

I looked at Gilbert's Guns website, I saw a choke set for the .410, but not for the 12. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place? A link would be most helpful to compare factory choke costs.

 

My solution would run somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 bucks plus or minus 5, and I'd probably want at least a dozen folks committed to buying 'em before I start cranking them out. Which, like I said, I wouldn't be able to do for a couple months anyhow, as the lathe is in storage while I'm pending a move.

[thread pattern on saiga]

Sorry I'm sure this has been asked before but I couldn't find it. Wondering what the factory threads were on the 19" Saiga 109? Thanks guys!

 

M22x.75, RH

Why do you ask?

[All this talk about chokes-- interest check]

I finally purchased a Saiga-12 about a year ago, and it's great. However, RAA doesn't seem to be importing any of the screw-on muzzle chokes, and to order them from the UK (the only place I've seen them available) seems prohibitively expensive. I have a pile of RemChokes for my 870, and was thus considering sitting down at the lathe and turning out a muzzle attachment that could take RemChokes for a Saiga 12. Shouldn't be too difficult, as it's only two threading operations and some boring. And RemChokes run only about 20 bucks each.

 

My question is, would anyone else be interested in something like this? I wouldn't be able to get around to it until I finish my move two or three months from now. But I thought I'd test the waters out here first.

[FBMG S-12 IZ 109 Orders]

Thanks for the reassurance guys. I'll try them tomorrow.

 

nyclu3

FBMG service, when I bought my Saiga-12, was superb. I'll go back again if I need any sort of evil black rifle or shotgun. However, they are the only distributor (that I know of) in the western part of the US for the Saigas, so they've probably got their hands full.

[Pix of AK-USA, FL FALCON T&T, FL and BBA, TX import stamps]

If anyone cares, here are a few import stamps off some of our guns, that aren't EAA or RAC.

All are sheet metal guns.

 

 

 

 

 

 

They had those shipped into Fort Pierce? That city shares a border with Port St. Lucie, where the other import stamp is from. Curious-- I lived there for a while and never even known of any importers in Ft. Pierce, which is undeniably the worst hellhole I have ever had the mispleasure of living in, and where I had two hurricanes (Frances and Jeanne) hit me. What years were those companies importing?

[Uncommanded magazine disassembly question]

+1 if you are dropping the mag on a HARD surface. Actually, it should not do that unless you have hit the hardest of surfaces from the highest of heights. Check the plastic (glass reinforced) buttons the metal clip is attached to. It may be not high enough if the impact was minimal. If it is barely there, you may need to send it back for a eplacement. It should withstand a good bump and survive. If your "nub" is substantial, then trty removing it and squeezing it with pliers to increase the grip on the mag. Enjoy!!

 

Ha, it actually fell only about six inches from my hand to my desk. The clip popped off, but the follower stayed in the mag body, so I only had the clip and the shells to go looking for. I tried the plier compression drill, but it's met with mixed success thus far.

 

In any case, I'll probably throw the clip in some vise grips and compress it a little bit, and see how that works. I'm going to be buying acouple 10-rounders soon, so this won't be my only mag. Thanks for the suggestions and tips, all, and for keeping such an awesome forum up and going.

--Ryan

[Uncommanded magazine disassembly question]

I rercently purchased a Saiga shotgun, and so far, the shotgun has treated my very well. However, the magazine has acted a bit strange. When fully loaded, the little metal clip on the back starts coming off the two very short plastic posts that hold it on. When I inadvertently dropped a mag, the clip separated entirely from the mag body, causing the shells to go flying about 3 feet in one direction and the mag a foot or two in another. While it has otherwise fed fine as long as it's in the gun, I'm sorta worried about my mag one day spontaneously disassembling itself. Anyone else had the same problem? Suggestions? I love the shotgun, and with the availability of 10-round mags on the horizon it's not likely Ill be using the 5 rounder all that much

[Special pricing on Saiga rifles and shotguns until the end of the mont]

We are stocked up on rifles and shotguns. so until we get inventory to normal levels we are discounting the following models:

 

IZ-132 $260

IZ-133 $250

IZ-138 $350

IZ-141 $500

IZ-152 $700

IZ-108 $375

IZ-109 $385

 

This runs until July 4th. There is no special promo code or coupon to enter into the shopping cart, we have reset the prices to these prices. Happy 4th of July and thanks for all your support!

Yeah, I just purchased mine a week or two ago, one of the shipment that just got here.

 

Maybe not a rebate on the guns themselves, but perhaps FBMG could offer a discount on any purchase of the 10-round mags Correia & crew are rumored to have pre-ordered. That way, everybody wins. They get mags off their shelves at a profit, we get discounted 10-rounders, we can help them in their goal of inventory reduction : )

[flash hider Saiga-12 for sale]

Factory flash hider for Saiga-12. Made in Izhmash. $46 include shipping.

Also i have chokes and barrel elongators for Saiga-12, Saiga-20, Saiga-410.

 

What are your prices on the chokes and barrel elongator (and details on them as well)?

[saigas for sale]

I have four 22" S-12s, and one 19" .410 for sale. The .410 has a threaded barrel and the 12s do not.

 

$400+ $15 shipping for the 12s and $250.00 +$15 shipping for the .410.

 

I just got a paypal buisness account, so I can take credit cards through email invoices.

 

 

 

I'm interested in buying one of the 12s. What are they choked to, and are they still available?