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Come on, 30 people have looked and nobody has an answer?
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I finally bit the bullet and had my .223 done by Tromix. It is spectacular, but proves to me that I am too hooked on ARs to ever fully appreciate an AK style rifle. Regardless, I have been wondering what options are available for handguard replacement that would allow me to put a light out front and possible a scope in the scout position. I know you can't just use regular AK handguards without an adaptor. But beyond that, I don't even know what is available. So, I thought I would come to the experts and ask what you would do if you wanted rails out front.
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Silly me, I always just said minute of man. I need to keep up with the trends.
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I haven't tried 5.56 in the Saiga yet, but I would guess it can deal with it just fine. In some rifles, the 5.56 won't quite feed properly, but I have only seen that on 223 rifles with very tight tolerences. Not really a hallmark for the AK series.
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There is a website that sold the compacts when they were in supply. Sadly Armscor can't keep up with demand, so I think only the GI models are available right now. The compacts are supposed to be back on the market the first week of April, so I assume the Tacticals will be as well.
Tacticals seem to be selling for about $450, so the GI is probably $350-375 or so. Not as cheap as Hi-Point, but much higher quality from what I have seen- and far less than any other comparable 1911 on the market. I would put my RIA Tactical against anything from Springfield or other companies of the same quality.
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Take it from Charles Lindbergh & me - Maui is one great place to be, now or forever...
Yeah, Maui is great. As long as you don't mind all of the anti-gun
morons that are in charge of the place. Personally, I think I am capable of carrying a gun on my person without killing anyone and I like more than 10 rounds between reloads. They fix their government, and I'll be on the next plane/boat over. 
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I have the Rock Island tactical, and love it. I swapped the full length guide rod for the GI version and changed the grips because I prefer something with some bite to them. The pistol locked open from time to time, so I ordered a heavier recoil spring. It has not come in yet, but the problem seemed to resolve itself after about 150 rounds.
The best thing is their service. If you ever have a problem visit m1911.org and let Ivan know. He'll make it right by either sending you the parts or having you send him the pistol. I only know of one he hasn't been able to correct, and that is because someone decided to take a dremmel to the feed ramp without knowing what they were doing.
I can't wait for the compacts to hit the market again. I love the tactical (which should be on the market again now or in the very near future) and have heard great things about the GI. Makes me thing the compact will be great as well. Of course, since they can't keep up with the demand, I assume that the prices are about to go up. Still should be the best 1911 value out there.
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I carry my Glock 23 every single day. It is not at all uncomfortable, especially if you use a good quality holster and belt. If you buy the cheap stuff any gun can be a pain in the butt. The 27 is a good bit smaller, and is easier to hide. However, with the smaller size comes the problems with a small gun. The recoil is different, it is more difficult to shoot thanks to the shorter sight radius, and I personally cannot stand not being able to get all of my fingers onto the grip.
I tell everyone that the Glock 23 is the best gun for concealed carry. It is small enough to easily carry and conceal, yet large enough to function well as a combat pistol. Get one and you won't be disappointed. Visit www.ubgholsters.com after you buy it, get a belt and a Striker or Canute, and you'll be all set.
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I have been in touch with all of the serious Republican candidates at one point or another. None are as supportive of the second amendment as I would like, but none (including Rudy) are hard line against it either. If the people of the forum really need a form letter, I can put one together. But, a form letter doesn't carry too much weight with a candidate. They will pay a little attention because you took the time to send it, but it will quickly be seen for what it is, and they will just kind of count how many come in. If you really want their attention it takes some work to show that you are involved and interested. If you don't take the time to look into the background of the candidate and address specific points with your letters they aren't going to be too worried about you being involved for or against them in the campaign and they will wonder how many of those that sent a form letter will even vote, particularly in a primary.
I will admit, I have not spent one second on the Democrats. No matter what they say or claim, they are the enemy to just about everything I hold dear, including the RKBA. I will never vote for a Democrat, so I do not see the need to spend time worrying about their candidates. All I can tell you with any degree of accuracy about the Democratic Party is that Osama Obama and HillBill are both spending a lot of money for nothing. Neither will win the nomination. (I believe Bill Richardson will, but I'm not positive about that part yet.)
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Kel Tecs are great for what they are. Inexpensive defensive guns that fill a specific need. I love my P3AT and would not be without it. But, with the fit and finish of every Kel Tec I've seen (including their rifles) I cannot imagine spending $2000 on any of their products. They're going to have to step up in a big way if they are going to charge that much for any product.
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welcome to the club! You'll find a lot of magazine talk around here, and for good reason. The mags are not just jumping off the shelves at you. The best answer seems to be the 5.45 magazines converted to work with .223. I believe Dinzag will make the mods on your followers for a reasonable price. I may have to pick some up and see.
Other than that, just scroll through the threads and you can see what most people are doing.
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I am usually an alarmist and the first in line to be excited over things like this. But, in this case there is no need. This Congress will not pass this legislation. Too many of the Democrats that just won came into office claiming conservative ideals. The first reelection is the most dangerous for a member of Congress. By voting for this legislation the new Democrats would ensure that they would face stiff competition in the next cycle. The leadership knows this as well. For that reason, this legislation will not see the light of day until after the 2008 elections. A lame duck Congress could never get something as radical as this through, so we are looking at 2009 and the next President before there is really a chance of this getting through.
We have to work to ensure that the Congress has actual pro-gun members after the next election. That is the only way we will stop this after January 2009. The Repulicans will hold enough Senate seats to filibuster the bill, but I don't know that the Senate leadership would stand their ground on this particular bill.
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For the Saiga I think it is a little over the top to use traditional optics. It just isn't that type of gun. I have a red dot on mine. I used to have an aimpoint, but decided that it should have a Russian optic, so it has the Kobra. Great optic that performs well within the function limitations of the platform.
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Not to hijack, but those of you that are touting the Savage are dead on. Of course, I guess I'm an odd duck, because I liked the old trigger better than the acu-trigger. If you're like me, you would be happy to know that the Stevens 200 is the old Savage 110 but wish a somewhat ugly gray plastic stock. I picked one up just to play with and am in love with the old Savage style again.
For what it is worth, I don't use a bench or high power scope to measure my rifle accuracy. I compare everything to my AR (Bushy) and go from there. At 100 yards in the prone position I can usually get a one to one and a half inch group from the AR. With the Saiga my groups are usually close to three and one half to four inches. Either way, it is well within minute of man and will perform its job.
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That scope looks great. I've been thinking about trying to do some sort of scout mount. But, it looks like it may sit a bit too high.
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I don't hunt, so that isn't an issue for me to consider. If I had to hunt for food I am confident that I could get the job done with whatever tool I had available to me.
So, we're talking about a homeland defense rifle. A Main Battle Rifle. I am a total sell out for the AR. Probably not popular here, but it is what it is. I love the accuracy of the rifle, I've had exactly one failure in over 15 years of shooting them, and nothing feels better in my hands. The only thing I would change is the caliber. (Odd since I don't own a rifle in a larger caliber)
In my mind, an M-16 (read select fire) in 7.62 NATO is the ideal weapon. It will stop any man where they stand. It would retain the accuracy and user friendly feel of the AR. And, it would make me smile. As for trim, I would want it in the A2 format. The flat tops are nice, but I don't want to have to rely on optics. The sights on the A2 are, in my mind, the best yet created. So, I'll take the big bore M-16 A2 and call it good.
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I've shot both, and they're both good guns. Since you're already shooting 7.62 I would tell you to go that route. Limiting the calibers you own makes supplying your habit that much easier. Plus, 7.62 mags are much easier to come by.
I have a .223 because I am an AR guy at heart and that will always be my go to rifle. With that in mind, the Saiga is more or less a toy, and by having it in .223 I am able to use the ammo I have on hand anyway.
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Wouldn't that be a 922r problem? The need/desire for high capacity mags is the only reason I am doing the conversion. I would be OK with the sporter stock (although it is a bit long) but 10 rounds and mags that are next to impossible to find convinced me to make the change.
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I don't know why everyone insists that the AR is so unreliable. I have literally tens of thousands of rounds down range through AR's and M-16's and I have had exactly one stoppage. If you keep it reasonably clean it will work for as long as you need it to work. I doubt many of us will ever be situation where we need to shoot 1,500 rounds without an opportunity to clean the weapon. That being the case, it is as reliable as you could want. Cheap, they aren't, but they are reliable.
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Exactly. The bullet guide is not made for any one specific mag type. It simply allows you to use magazines that do not have the high front "lip" that the Saiga mags have.
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I know there are Bulgarian waffle mags out there for .223. They aren't cheap, but they are made for the .223 and the AK.
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I'm not one for putting things like that on anything I own usually- and I even want one. That thing is, quite possibly, the coolest "fun" addition to a weapon I've ever seen.
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I saw a pic somewhere. I am sure I can find it again. Seems like it should be somewhere near, or just behind, where the trigger sits now.
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For some reason I never thought to just ask. I just tried doing an internet search for it. Let me know how to get the cd, and I will happily buy it.
Below is a link to the thread where he is detailing his misadventures in making the conversion. I believe he lurks here, but I don't know that for a fact.
Handguard replacement
in Saiga .223
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Thanks for the links. that shows some options at least. Like I said, I am totally new to the AK platform, and don't even know where to look for these things.
I'm not settled on optics yet. I'm thinking more and more about using a Kobra red dot though. So, that would eliminate optics problems, it would mount on the side rail. If that's the case a light will be all I hang out front. If I want a super duper mall ninja rifle, I'll build an AR to fill that role. The AK is appealing to me because of its simplicity, and putting something in every available location would ruin that.
I never talked about rails with Tony when I dropped the rifle off at Tromix. Honestly, it never entered my mind until I got it home and started thinking about optics for the rifle. I also should have had him spray the metal OD like I intend to do at some point, but I didn't think about that either.