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I'll take the vz58.
OK!
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This shows the SGM choke kit.
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This shows the AGP mags.
The AGP mags are all sold.
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I have the following items for sale:
One (1) VZ58 from CZ-USA (<100 rounds through it) with military PG and folding stock,the magazines shown (US follower and floorplate for 922r installed in each, but I can send you the original followers and floorplates if you intend to satisfy 922r in other ways). A sealed package of spare magazine springs (I think 10 of them) is included. A spare parts kit which includes all the spare parts you might need is included. A scout scope VZ58 mount (never used) is included. The factory thumbhole stock can be included if you wish. The gun must ship to your FFL. The firm price is $725 shipped to your FFL (you are responsible for transfer fees). The VZ58 is sold.
Eight (8) unused AGP S-12 10 round magazines. Ten are shown (below), but I already sold two of them, leaving just eight. The price is $23 each shipped, or $168 for all eight shipped. The AGP mags are all sold.
Three piece SGM Tactical S-12 choke kit (modified, full, X-Full; all chrome lined). Only the modified tube was used (<75 rounds). The price is $70 shipped.
Only USPS money orders accepted.
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Had range time today with 6 new out of wrapper mags. 1 of 6 did a fail to feed on 2nd and 7th round. Reloaded and it worked as others. Mine fit tighter than regular AK mags in other weapons. Used 2 rifles. Will still emory and silicone enternals, as done with all resin based mags. Will use these mags in a saiga mag converted Vepr. Top of front lip has to be filed an 1/8 inch to work correctly, yet still work in a Saiga. Easiest mag style to do this. Shot 1,000 rds today, 200 silver bear, 300 wolf, and 500 german surplus. Only issue was 2rds on mag mentioned before. Of 2 rifles used, fit was the same in both. Not any more wobble than a Fal or M1A.
P.S. 2 8rd factory mags that came with my weapons wobble at least twice as much as these did.Holy crab apple!! 1000 rounds makes me feel less than adequate! Anyway, I did 40 rounds through 2 mags and had no issues. I ran American Eagle (at 14.00 per 20) five rounds per loading to get the mags in and out several times. The magazines are loose, looser than I'd like, but it didn't affect function any this time around. Dunno what wobble is on a FAL or M1A but it sounds substantial. I plan on trying to tighten these things up a bit but they did work as is with my limited shooting.
I was mainly running my 223 (100 rounds of PMC) and it worked fine except I had a double fire on one occasion when I was doing a slow squeeze. Uh oh! Please help. I've only run a couple of hundred rounds through it since the conversion and this was the first glitch. Still, I'm not licensed for a selective fire weapon and I'd rather not go to prison.
This link explains what is probably going on, as well as the kind of trigger pulls that will be more or less likely to produce doubles due to hammer follow.
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I took a class with Marco Vorobiev at David Fortier's place in Kansas. Marco is a great guy and an excellent instructor. I highly recommend training with him if you can.
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Arizona Response Systems has an excellent reputation for all AK work.
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Here are some initial impressions:
-The rifle was packed in a styrofoam cutout. A lot of small piece of styro got loose and were all over the weapon, getting stuck to the preservative coating. I blew some of it away with compressed air and wiped the rest off with a rag.
-There are styrofoam cutouts for two mags, but the rifle only came with one. Hmm...
-The nylon sling is kind of cheap.
-The receiver markings are from "D-Technik" (Czech manufacturer) and "Waffen Werks" (importer used by CZ-USA and Czechpoint).
-The rifle feels like I remembered from handling one at a local gun shop: light, compact, comfy... "tight" all over. Definitely more comfortable to maneuver with than an AKM.
-Outside fit and finish are great. The baked-on paint finish is just a bit glossy and looks almost gray when you hold it to the light.
-The mag is big, but very light. Feels like aluminum alloy to me. Definitely doesn't feel as sturdy as AK mags. I get the feeling that if it was ever stepped on, something very bad would happen to it.
-It was a tight fit into the mag well and instantly began losing some finish on points of contact.
-The mag release lever is very small and very close to the trigger guard. Forget about pushing on it with your next mag.
-There is a BHO button right next to the mag release lever. Pretty cool...
-Mag well walls were covered with some brown shit, turning my rag brown pretty quickly. I think (hope) it's a preservative of some sort.
-Bolt-face looked a bit dirty. Wiping it and the receiver innards (which are accessible without field-stripping) with my rag, soiled the rag with black stuff. Hmm... Was this weapon fired or what?!?
-Began field-stripping the receiver and the dust cover, the springs, bolt carrier and the bolt all came out as one piece. I thought that it was supposed to be that way. Wiped off more black crap. Seriously, did I just pay for a new gun and get a used one?
-Tried to put everything back together and it wasn't quite fitting in there. Looked up instructions on the web... the dust cover and the springs are actually supposed to separate from the bolt carrier. The bigger spring on mine was lodged in there and didn't want to budge. I kept applying increasing amount of force, until it finally popped out, making a breaking sound. The metal bit covering the tip of the spring looked rusted... Seems like it got fused with the bolt carrier via rusting. Kind of shitty... Oh well... the rifle was probably laying somewhere for 5 years.
-Had a little bit of difficulty lining things up just right, in order to put them back together into the receiver, but I am sure that it will become a piece of cake on subsequent assemblies.
-The design is rather elegant, but does have more parts than an AK. Seems like the action should be cleaner, with less gas and debris getting back into the receiver, due to the gas piston being separate from the bold carrier, isolated and contained in the space where the AK gas tube would go.
-One of the features that Czechpoint touts over the Century models is that the safety is not reversed ("down is safe and up is fire" vs "down is fire and up is safe" on Century rifles). Honestly, maybe because I am not used to it or whatnot, but to me, the "reversed" safety seems like it would be quicker and more comfortable. Maybe I am just not educated on how to work it properly. I try to work it with my trigger finger.
-BIGGEST COMPLAINT: The friggin' trigger is made out out plastic! Argh! What were they thinking?!? It feels like a water soaker trigger! Anyone know if one can buy a normal (steel) trigger for this thing?
Well, that's all for the initial impressions. I plan on taking it out to the range this weekend. Will post a range report then.
The gun should not have been that dirty/rusted. That is the kind of thing you might expect from Century, but not CZ. At least you can easily get replacement parts at Czechpoint if needed, but it shouldn't be like that.
The magazines are aluminum alloy. If there is anything wrong with the VZ-58s we can get here (aside from the rusty ones), it may well be the magazines. This is not because of what they are made of so much as the seemingly impossible task of getting truly factory new magazines, and having to put up with (probably) less than mil-spec parts (follower and floor plate) for 922r compliance. With the reconditioned mags, you will often find that the rear locking lug is somewhat blunted, which can make locking the magazine in less positive.
The plastic trigger is also for 922r compliance. If it is made out of good polymer, it should not be a problem. After all, many firearms parts, including triggers, are plastic these days.
I hope the rifle works out for you. VZ-58s really are nice guns.
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What I ment by "where it ejects brass" is because I'm interested in this rifle but I'm a lefty. Now AKs and most other semi autos dont bother me one bit but this has the whole top part move. Just curious if it they go up, forward, backwards,......
Sorry about misunderstanding your question. The ejection is pretty much up and forward. Left handed use should be no problem.
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If you want a red dot with co-witnessing, the NEA railed piston cover is the thing to get. I have one on my VZ-58, and it is great. Actually, the whole NEA handguard set is excellent. Neit Designs in Canada is where I got mine. They also have ambi safeties, extended mag releases, etc.
For anyone worried about what stock comes on a particular VZ-58, keep in mind that the stocks are extremely easy to swap out. I find the folding stock to be very comfortable and easy to use. With the NEA railed piston cover, an Aimpoint Micro is mounted low enough so you do get a decent cheek weld.
The casings eject out of the massive ejection port created when the bolt carrier retracts. The top of the bolt carrier forms the whole front half of the receiver "cover," so when it moves back on recoil, that area is totally open. There is almost no way for a stovepipe to occur.
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Personally, I would get an Arsenal SLR 106.
No Aresenal for me. Also no Kvar. Anyone who supports Harry Reid will get no money from me.
Understood, but also keep in mind that anytime you buy an AK, even an Arsenal, you give a gun banning liberal a migraine, or worse.
Anyway, if you are bored of AKs, why get a Galil (which is extremely similar to an AK) or a Saiga? You might as well get something else.
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Personally, I would get an Arsenal SLR 106.
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I have one that I have been using in my Red Jacket SBS. It needed to be cycled a few times to become fully reliable, but it works fine now. In my opinion a larger drum, although fun, would be too bulky for my purposes.
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Greg,
If you are willing to go as far as College Station to get a gun, you might also want to check out Independence Firearms in Independence. It is run by the same guy that owns Ammunition to Go. I have heard that it is a good store, and that they have Saigas. I have also heard that cash or check are the best ways to pay there, as they reportedly charge a fee for credit cards.
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The SLR-106F or SLR-106FR is the way to go. They are very nice guns, good to go from the outset, made to work with the best magazines (there is less standardization with .223 AKs, so it is generally best to use the magazines made to work with that particular make of .223 AK), and they have the AK-100 series style side-folding stock (which is awesome).
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As far as I know, those flash hiders are supposed to also serve as a "booster" meaning that they increase the pressure inside the barrel helping to ensure reliable cycling of a short barreled AK. It would probably be fine in a full barreled rifle, but might cause it to cycle more violently. It may or may not lead to problems after a while, but I can't really say for sure.
Yes, it does function as a booster and is intended for SBRs. Problems have been known to occur when used on full-length rifles.
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With an AK, if the hammer is cocked and the dust cover is off, there is a decent chance that the hammer will be released if the safety lever is raised much beyond its normal upper limit of travel. Don't use an AK with the dust cover off unless you really need to.
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With some guns, a Tapco G2 FCG will have a tendency to produce doubles if you slowly pull the trigger and then hold it in about the same position it was in when the hammer was just released (apparently this can also be done quickly for bump firing). If you follow through with the trigger pull, and trap the trigger at the rearmost point of its movement before allowing a deliberate reset, you should not get doubles. Here is a link that provides some explanation of what sometimes happens, as well as how to prevent it.
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I have one brand new Kross Hellion Tri-rail handguard for an S-12 SBS. I am selling it because it does not fit my Red Jacket S-12 SBS. It should fit a Tromix S-12 SBS, but I cannot guarantee it. I am asking $60 shipped via USPS Priority Mail. I will accept a personal check from a well-established member of this forum. Otherwise, certified check or money order.
Sold pending funds.
The item is Sold.
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Very strange! Especially the restriction on shipping to a state like Texas. I live in Texas, and I have purchased a lot of ammo from Sportsman's Guide (including some which shipped just a few days ago) without any problems at all. I guess it must just be certain kinds of ammo, or it is an error.
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I have a Red Jacket S-12 SBS. It is awesome. The class 3 dealer I went through to get it said it compared very favorably to the Tromix SBSs he has seen. Tromix is excellent too, though.
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If anyone thinks that there will be ANY cops refusing to comply with orders to take guns away from citizens then you are just naive. And I'm not saying there won't be the occasional extremely rare oddity but as a rule they will follow in lock step. The gang mentality will take over. They will justify it some way in their own mind or they will believe the supposed justification that they have been fed by their higher-ups. Most will do it just to keep their jobs and careers, and their OWN guns.
Do you think there were not a lot of cops in D.C. who disagreed with their draconian and unconstitutional gun laws there for decades? How many of them did you hear about that refused to enforce those laws that prevented citizens from protecting themselves? Absolutely fucking none. I've heard a lot of officers say they didn't agree with the assault weapons ban. How many of them made a stand on that for the benefit of ordinary citizens? Absolutely fucking none.
So go ahead and believe there will be LEOs out there taking our side when the gun grabbers come. The closest thing to any sympathy from them you will hear is....."I'm sorry to have to do this, but........."
What is the factual basis for your absolute assertion that "the gang mentality will take over..."? How many police officers do you personally know well? There are already many laws on the books that individual officers already choose not to enforce because they disagree with them. I know this from extensive, direct personal experience.
In most cases it would be a simple matter not to enforce any new gun ban. You simply ignore it, just as many officers do when they observe countless other things that are technically violations of the law. Heck, there have even been Presidents who have openly indicated that they would not (as head of the executive branch) enforce certain laws if Congress passed them. The "cops in D.C." who disagreed with the unconstitutional gun ban/restrictions would simply not have actively looked for violations, and would have ignored those they happened upon. Why would you expect to "hear" about such occurrences? They wouldn't be advertised.
Individual officers own guns via the same mechanisms, with the same restrictions, as any other citizen. Taking other people's guns would not enable them to keep their own. If you are referring to department-issued guns, their department could easily insist that the officer only carry those while actually on duty, so the officer would still be in the same boat as everyone else the majority of the time, including in their own home.
As for the "Assault Weapon Ban," whole police organizations openly spoke out against it. When it was proposed that it be re-instated, whole police organizations opposed it and noted that it was, and would be, ineffective in reducing violent crime. As for individual officers not enforcing it; again, why would you expect to hear about it? They aren't going to advertise the fact any more than an officer who disagrees with seatbelt laws is going to advertise that he ignores seatbelt violations.
As Bigsal has noted above, the real key is to make sure that it never gets to the point that there is legislation mandating the disarming of law-abiding citizens. As voters, it is our obligation to do all we can to insist that the Constitution be respected and adhered to.
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I wish more cops looked like THIS:
Me too!
Krebs custom safety TOO loose
in Saiga Rifle Conversions
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As Russian Hammer said, simply bending it towards the receiver slightly should take care of the issue. It is just the opposite of what you would do if the safety lever was too tight. If something is way out of spec though, you may just have to use a different safety lever. There really isn't anything wrong with the factory levers. Dinzag will modify the factory lever if you really want the notch to hold the bolt open or you would like to have the closer finger ledge.