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I just got a Saiga .410 from my cousin and I'm having trouble loading it. When I push the bolt hold open button and pull back on the charging handle, the bolt goes forward at least 1/4 of the way forward before the hold open catches it. Because of this I can't load a mag, unless I hold the bolt back with one hand while inserting it. Is this common? Am I doing something wrong or do I need to have that fixed?
Hi guys. I joined this forum today because I'm at my wits end with my Saiga. I (try) to shoot 3 Gun, in Open Division. When I started, the Saiga was really my only option for a Open shotgun, so I bought one and converted it to pistol grip. I could not get it to run very reliably, ever, and at this point in time it has gotten so bad that I'm about to part it out and start over with an Adkal, which I would hate to do because of the time and money I have invested in the Saiga. My primary failure is failure to eject. The gun extracts. It doesn't like to feed some types of slug, but it simply will not extract with any reliability whatsoever. Here are the modifications on the gun. I didn't do them all at once, and I cannot point to a single one that made any significant change in how it operates. DPH 6 setting gas plug CSS gas "puck" with nipple CSS trigger guard Tapco pistol grip ACE stock Chaos over the dustcover rail Magwell That's everything I've bolted on. In addition: I drilled and tapped the bolt carrier and installed a left side charging handle. Milled the dust cover for the charging handle Fabricated a magazine release extension to operate with your trigger finger, silver soldered to magazine catch. Honed the gas block/gas chamber (where the puck is) since it was slightly out of round and the CSS puck bound up inside Drilled the 3 existing gas ports out to 0.090" and deburred the holes Drilled a 4th gas hole and deburred. Polish job on the moving parts Enlarged the #6 setting on the DPH plug to accomodate new gas hole Enlarged the clearance hole in the gas block to accomodate new gas hole At this point, from my reading here, the only 2 things left I could possibly do would be to A) weld or tap and plug the gas vent in the gas block (I do not understand how this could help, by time gas can reach this vent, the puck has already traveled it's course and the bolt carrier is no longer in contact with it) and TIG weld up the ejector so that it ejects sooner. I'm leaning towards (. I can hand cycle through every magazine I own without hiccup. Those include 10 round, 12 round, 5 round, and even some 20 round stick magazines I made from SGM 12 round magazines by coupling them and soldering the springs together. However, the one thing I notice during hand cycling, is that sometimes the extractor loses the shell before impacting the ejector because it was disturbed by the next shell in the magazine. I think a longer ejector would solve that problem. Anyway, any help you could give me would be appreciated. It cannot be a gas issue. It will not run buck, slugs, high brass field loads, AA Heavy, AA Super Handicap, *anything*. While test firing I placed my hand at the rear-most travel of the charging handle to see if the bolt carrier was truly making full travel to the rear, and it smoked my hand pretty good. I definitely have gas.
I took my new Saiga 12 (from CenterfireSystems) out to the range for the first time last night and on the 2nd box of shells it locked up non-functional. The bolt hold open tab has either slipped inside the action or dropped off. I cannot see it and the bolt is permanently held open. In this position I cannot disassemble the action either. Centerfire Systems referred me to the importer, which is Russian American Armory. But they are closed today through Tuesday..... Anybody else run into this particular problem?