topmaul 42 Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 How many us parts do I need to put into my saiga before I can use an eight round mag without going to jail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomac 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 How many us parts do I need to put into my saiga before I can use an eight round mag without going to jail? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if memory serves you'd need 3 US parts if you use the std buttstock & don't convert it to pistol grip configuration. Tomac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted November 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Thanks, if your correct than a front sight, a rear sight, and a buffer pad and I'm all set ? I really don't want a pistol grip or a folding stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomac 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Thanks, if your correct than a front sight, a rear sight, and a buffer pad and I'm all set ? I really don't want a pistol grip or a folding stock. Just to be clear you don't need to *add* 3 US parts, you need to *replace* 3 foreign parts w/US equivelants so your total foreign parts count is 10 or less. Just adding US parts accomplishes nothing. Replacing the fire control group (trigger, hammer, disconnector) would suffice but then you'd have to find someone to modify a US-made AK trigger to fit the stock Saiga action. Check out this thread: What Can You Do With A Saiga? Tomac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesiumsponge 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 A buffer pad isn't a core "part" as listed by the ATF. Also just for argument's sake, it is an addition, not a replacement part so nothing is deducted from the "foreign" list. The front or rear sights are not listed as a countable "part" either by the ATF. If it was that easy, you could replace three retaining pins and call it done. Right now, with the aftermarket parts available, you would have to replace the fire control group and that would automatically force you to change to a pistol grip. The FCG consists of 3 and you're done. You'll have to wait for US made parts like gas tubes or bolts to come out and be compatible with the Saiga-12 if your main purpose for making it 922r compliant is to use 8-round magazines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JBONE 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Correct me if Im wrong, but if you dont convert it to pistol grip configuration, then it is not considered non sporting, thus no US parts are nessessary. Correct? JBONE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesiumsponge 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 (edited) I believe the addition of magazines above 5-rounds (the 8-round magazine) makes it unsporting, so you're back to square one and need to comply with 10-parts count. Edited November 3, 2004 by Cesiumsponge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RDSWriter 5 Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Use a standard US FCG and perform the modifications outlined on this board for the trigger and hammer. After you're done, cut the trigger off so that you can use it in your non-pistol grip Saiga. You basically need to do some more cutting on the 'trigger' than the usual pistol grip conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted November 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 So it looks like my options are limited I'll have to real choice but to go with the pistol grip and some kind of new stock right It's not that I have anything agianst pistol grips but I just wanted to leave the stock. My discressionary funds are some what limited. So I'll just have to save up and really trick out my Saiga. I have no intention of cutting off my barrel. I like it the way it is. Thanks for all your advice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
screaming eagle 0 Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 (edited) AAOK http://www.aa-ok.com/compli.htm has FCGs in stock & ships priority mail (fast service) Their FCG comes w/ the C washers to replace the shepards hook Theirs is also $8 cheaper than tapco & includes a US made pistol grip You can call your order in & not jerk around w/ paypal Edited November 4, 2004 by screaming eagle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesiumsponge 0 Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 I don't know what the chances are, but perhaps someone might start making additional US parts besides the FCG and the pistol grip if you're diehard on keeping the sportster stock and wanting it to be 922r compliant to use the 8-rounders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RDSWriter 5 Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 You only need to replace 3 parts. Replace the fire control group with a US set as people have mentioned above. If you want to leave the stock you can... BUT you will need to cut off the portion of the US hammer that protrudes through the bottom of the receiver off so that it will fit in an unmodified Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted November 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 I'm just going to break down and put a us stock and pistol grip on it, I just will not be ready to do so for a few weeks. So much for the old stock. I just have to budget a little better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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