MidSSouth 0 Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 Will this work with no mods? http://www.tapco.com/product_information.a...s&dept=92&last= Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 MidSSouth, If I understand what has been posted by the more experienced members, you have two choices when attaching this or any other upper or lower forearm designed for the AK 47. Either press out the pins and remove the gas chamber and FSE to properly affiz a retainer plate or cut the plate slide it over the barrel, affix the part and bolt the retainer plate together so that it performs its' function of holding the forearm in place. The exception to this is to install the more expensive UltiMak top rail ($85 on Blackjack's site) that facilitates installation of sight systems and vents gas out portholes. The rail runs from the trunion to the gas chamber and replaces the gas tube. It is slick. Bvamp has posted pictures of his SAR1 with the UltiMak on it. Ultimak now offers a bottom matching rail but it is a steep $220. It is for the tactical specialists permitting laser and flashlight attachments, etc. Hope this helps. Wolverine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidSSouth 0 Posted December 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 (edited) Are there any forearms available that don't cost a fortune and just slide/bolt on such as these? What's a FSE? Edited December 24, 2004 by MidSSouth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 MidSSouth, I was referring tovyour front sight block assembly held on by pressed in pins. Yes, those handguards will work if you use one of the two methods I mentioned. I would be inclined to cut the retaining plate, open it enough to slip it around the barrel, affix it in place, and bolt it closed. It is not as pretty but most of us don't have access to a press without paying a gunsmith which defeats the purpose of doing it yourself and controlling costs. I note the handguards you referred to were imports. I would select a US part for part count reasons. You can select the Galili model, the Tri-rail model, or more concentional AK type of lower grip/guard. Hope this helps. Wolverine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 MidSsouth, Here are a couple of other options from reputable dealers: The Galil from Tapco: http://www.tapco.com/product_list.asp?dept=40&last=40 The Tri-Rail from Blackjacks: http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?...products_id=209 Wolverine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MidSSouth 0 Posted December 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 (edited) Ok, maybe I'm not visuallizing this well since I don't have my lower here with me but, if I get one of these what part needs to be cut? Edited December 27, 2004 by MidSSouth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 MidSSouth, Your part is OK and does not need to be cut. the clamp used to secure it does. follow this link and read the description by Mrapathy2000. PS...I plan on doing this on my Saiga using the tri-rail handgrip. It is much easier and cheaper than pressing off the front sight block and gas chamber. I have finished moving the trigger and am painting now. Almost time for the furniture. Good luck on yours. Hope this helps. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=2348 Wolverine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glennb 0 Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 What Wolverine said. To get the needed retainer on the barrel you have to get the front sight block (FSB) and the gas block off to properly get the retainer onto the barrel which holds the fore end on to the conversion you are doing. Getting theose parts off to facilitate this can be a large task, so Wolverine mentioned what was discussed in some other threads regarding a WESCOG solution to a retainer , namely cutting it in a way that would allow it to be slipped over the barrel without removal of the FSB and the gas block. Maybe there is a market for a retainer for Saiga conversions that would allow bolt on capability without the removal of the previously mentioned parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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