AegisDei 2 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 What's up Saiga-12 forum? I'm a newbie, so I figured I'd introduce myself and thank everyone for some most useful information. Seeing as I'm not the most gun-savy, please always be patient with me if I ask stupid questions. I also wanted to introduce my Saiga to the crowd, get some feedback and opinions. I don't think I could be much happier with it, however the using the k-var buttpad doesn't let me fold my stock. Anyone aware of a buttpad that would still let me fold my stock? I think I'm going to try to modify the ACE 1" to fit, but that might be a bigger pain than it's worth. And no, I'm not a total wuss, I just want everyone to be able to shoot it without much pain: that includes my rather small step-mother and some petite female friends of mine. The motivation behind this Saiga was to fulfill my own fantasy of what a tactical assault shotgun should be: 100% functional, 110% reliable, but sporty too. The primary use is home defense, but on the weekends I'll take it out hunting or shoot clays. Also, I was trying to model it after the Spetnaz's 12k. I went against getting the raised AK front site so I could keep the adjustables for sport shooting, and I didn't get the flash-suppressor because if I'm using it at night (ie: home defense), I worried I'd be blinded by the flash. I've shot the Springfield .45 with the slotted muzzle at night and I couldn't see after the first shot to put the next few rounds on target. Any feedback on this? Can you still see at night after shooting with the flash suppressor? Lastly, I opted out of the Kobra optic because I've heard it's slower to come up on target and I didn't want to have to take it off everytime I went sporting, and then replace it at home. Also, I didn't want to risk battery failure, so I instead had the sites replaced with Night Sites: as dorky as it sounds, I got that idea out of Halo 2 and it really is sick-nasty to lay in bed and only be able to see 3 glowing dots on my H&K .45USPc and the three glowing sites on the Saiga. They look like ethereal eyes of a monster that I know looks out for me at night and lets me sleep all the more soundly. Next, let me give a HUGE THANKS TO DAVE MICHENER at ELITE FIREARMS. He took on this project, and even with all the issues with his employee and insane amounts of orders, he manged to produce my fantasy weapon, and I had set the bar extremely high. He may not have a week-long turn around, but it is more than worth the wait. You will get what you imagined, and it will be flawless! BTW, I'm fairly sure this is a one of a kind gun so please don't get mad if you try to get something similar and are refused. Fitting that Bulgarian triangle was a project in itself, one that he doesn't seem too eager to do again, but it's always worth a try if you're super eager. Everything else I know he'd be happy to do, and if you really want the folding stock, get any kind besides the Bulgy. And without further ado, the list of modifications and pictures will be following... Mods: Saiga 12C w/ adjustable sites Tapco Saw PG Barrel cut and recrowned to 18.5" Adjustable sites replaced with Glock Trijicon Tritium Contrast Night Sites Bulgarian Triangle Side-Folder Manual Bolt Hold-open Black Duracoat Gas-port work Blackjack Buffer (green) K-var Grenade Launching Buttpad (when stock is open) Anything else I ought do to it that I've neglected? Let me know if you can think of something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Pictures as promised. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I don't want to toot my own horn, but I'll toot Elite Firearm's. That's a sexy gun! Thanks again Dave!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dyi 0 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Can you still see at night after shooting with the flash suppressor? Though I don't have a flash suppressor, I know you'll won't be able to shoot at night without it. At dusk, I still get blinded for about 3 seconds with my 19". Looks like a flame thrower. Ideally, a good flash suppressor should direct the flame blast down and to the sides leaving you main field of vision intact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardcorps1775 1 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 welcome aboard and that is sweet!!! the flash suppressor suppresses the flash so you can shoot at night and not be blinded...also lowers your signature so it's a little harder to get shot back at... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Well dang...I should've gotten a flash suppressor. Hrm...probably why it's called a suppressor, huh? Anyone have any clues why the pistol I shot had the vented muzzle? The flash went strait up and to the sides, right where I wanted to be aiming. I figured that was a flash suppressor, but as I say I'm not very gun-savy. So the next question is, are there any good flash suppressors, and what's the best way to go about it installed? Thanks for the help y'all! I love this forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardcorps1775 1 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 (edited) hahahaha "any good flash suppressors"??? i can't wait to see the 10,000 response this will get! sounds like you had a recoil compensator or porting. this diverts the flash upward and sideways to lessen recoil. this is fine for range guns shot on nice sunny days but, as you found out, not so good at night. just to beat the rush, check this thread out... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=3520 Edited March 8, 2005 by hardcorps1775 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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