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how about some posts of best groups at 50 and 100 yards? please include a pic of the gun and the ammo use so we can see if it is iron sight,scope,ect. id like to hear from some re loaders too i am getting 1.5 inch groups from a load i worked up shooting 125 grain frangible .308 diameter and 23.7 gr of imr 4198 in my 7.62 x 39. this is a 100 yd bench rest group. should be interesting to see what you guys are getting from factory ammo and if the last year of learning to reload was worth it. god bless obama without him i wouldn't have the new guns, reloading press, x number of rounds stock piled, x pounds of gun powder. i wonder if that is the change he was hoping for? to re-arm and supply America? he he he

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