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so much for the money you spent on 2 day shipping....
Give 'em a chance and they will fubar your plans. I can honestly say that your story is nothing compared to the BS I've been through lately. At least your weapon looked good when it got there. All you need is patience now. My story is still ongoing and I don't feel at liberty to discuss it in detail because the dealer is still trying to make it right.... since January and 3 weapons later. WTF!
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I couldn't get rid of my ARs. They are dependable as long as I don't use dented reloads. I built all of them from top shelf parts except one that has a Colt 6940 upper (I call it my 'Ghetto' AR, lol). I have some AKs in 7.62. I just like them all using the same ammo and mags. After I get a couple Dracos with straight sights (long annoying story....) I want a 107UR. I think I will call it a day after I get that, but I have said similar things before. So many weapons.... so little money, lol. I'm really looking forward to starting a NFA stamp collection, but it will be a little while.
Damn, did we get off topic or what? Oh well....
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When my drums get delivered, I will be going to the range to fire at least 100 rounds per S12. I'll try adjusting it after getting things gunked up good.
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OP,
Are either of your sights canted? If they are straight, where did you get it? Did you have to specify that you wanted straight sights?
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I noticed that when I need to adjust the plug at the range, it seems more slippery than it does at home. This mod gives a little more grip. I haven't been to the range to test it yet, but it should make adjustment possible without a tool even after a little trash gets in there. Anyways, it is better than the way it came from the factory.... slick,lol. I haven't modded this handguard yet so I can get to the pin with the fingernail, but I may do it soon. Enjoy....
I did it with a file and some cold Blue.... I'd be dangerous with a vert mill and a lathe....
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Welcome to the forum.
New guns often need to be "broken in" to help smooth things out. But if you've got blocked or missing gas ports, no amount of breaking in will alleviate that. Gunfixer's plug is great and I recommend one, but if your gun isn't getting enough gas, it isn't getting enough gas.
As Bvamp said, CGW may be able to help you out.
Corbin
True, I still need to brake it in. Im going to invest in a Gunfixer's plug anyway. Ive heard nothing but good things about it. Thats all I really want to do, is have it work the best that it can. Eventually I grow a bigger pair and give it a real pistol grip conversion so it can look as good as everyone elses. Here it is BTW.
I assume you didn't fire it before you put the quad rail on there. Does the quad apply downward pressure on the gas tube or block the gas exit port? If so, put the factory handguard back on and try shooting it again. Also, look in the 'sticky' threads. You will learn a great deal.
Really, these guns generally need a bit of work done to them to make them work well with low brass rounds.
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At that price, I vote for giving it a try. Looks like a good value.
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OK, now I feel really stupid.
I just checked my paperwork and found that what I really bought and installed was the Tromix modified Fire Control Group, not the Tapco.
Sorry for the misdirection. So my understanding is that no mod was necessary with this one and as it turns out, maybe they took a little too much off?
I recently modified a G2 that I had laying around. I had the stock hammer and a Tromix modified hammer to refer to for measurements. The Tromix was a few thousandths narrower than the stock hammer, but I had already used the Tromix without any issues, period. Maybe someone got a little carried away or maybe they take them down a little further than the stock hammer to allow for inconsistencies from weapon to weapon. Glad you got it handled though. In Tromix's defense, these weapons, and nearly all AKs, aren't exactly one size fits all guns. In that aspect.... there's nothing like an AR, but that's another addiction.... um.... weapon, lol.
No need to defend Tromix. I wasn't intending any criticism. They make fine products. Clearly these Saigas tolerances vary quite a bit. I enjoy tinkering.
Understood. I think I'm having more fun playing with these S12s than any other weapon I've ever owned.... and learning a great deal as well.
Agreed. I enjoy my S12 and I also enjoy my Yugo M70AB2. Down the road somewhere, I want a 308.
Shhhh.... don't give me any ideas. I'm broke enough as it is, lol.
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I have the Vltor adapter on 4 AK's and have been very happy with them.
+1 for VLTOR
Every VLTOR product I have owned has been of the utmost quality. I did have a problem with 1 milspec AR15 buffer tube. They sent me a call tag to send the bad one back and shipped me 2 buffer tubes for my trouble! Above and beyond EXCELLENT customer service! Can't go wrong with VLTOR.
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Perfect transaction and great communication. A+
.... take note fellow members, communication is the key to successful transactions with no ill surprises.
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Thank you. I'm glad you like it.
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I think I will spring for one soon, but I have to find someone to weld it. I'll let you know how well I like it.
My thinking on the matter was:
If the CH is vertical, I can keep my right hand on the grip, pull the slide back with my left hand, and manipulate the BHO with my trigger finger.
and, I'm not happy with the awkwardness of the setup as it is, so I'm sure the Galil CH will offer some improvement. I've owned AKs for a long time, but the BHO is somewhat of a 'curve ball' for me.
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OK, now I feel really stupid.
I just checked my paperwork and found that what I really bought and installed was the Tromix modified Fire Control Group, not the Tapco.
Sorry for the misdirection. So my understanding is that no mod was necessary with this one and as it turns out, maybe they took a little too much off?
I recently modified a G2 that I had laying around. I had the stock hammer and a Tromix modified hammer to refer to for measurements. The Tromix was a few thousandths narrower than the stock hammer, but I had already used the Tromix without any issues, period. Maybe someone got a little carried away or maybe they take them down a little further than the stock hammer to allow for inconsistencies from weapon to weapon. Glad you got it handled though. In Tromix's defense, these weapons, and nearly all AKs, aren't exactly one size fits all guns. In that aspect.... there's nothing like an AR, but that's another addiction.... um.... weapon, lol.
No need to defend Tromix. I wasn't intending any criticism. They make fine products. Clearly these Saigas tolerances vary quite a bit. I enjoy tinkering.
Understood. I think I'm having more fun playing with these S12s than any other weapon I've ever owned.... and learning a great deal as well.
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A hell, I'm not afraid of converting. If I could weld, I'd be done already Years ago, I did an S-308
Well.... there's gotta be a welder somewhere near you that is worth his salt. I have an idea. You could use a bolt-on trigger guard (Tromix, ETAC, etc.) and plug the old FCG holes with nylon plugs until you can find a welder. I have nylon plugs in both of mine and they haven't went anywhere yet. If they do come out, they're like $0.80 at Lowe's, lol.
Oh, what the hell am I talking about?.... use some rivets for the original guard and plug the holes with them too. I know you are good with AK rivets. Now what are you waiting for.... now get busy and post pics
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How bout I buy that ATI grip for 15 bucks
you probly could if it wasnt on its way to me
gotta be quick....
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Did both the spring slot mod and the washer mod and it looks like I'm good to go!
The spring end is now bent over and downward and sits in a little slot just as wide as the spring thickness. (cut with a dremel cutting wheel)
The washer installation took out the slop in the Tromix G2 hammer width, and now the BHO barely wobbles at all.
While problems can be a pain, fixing them is fun, and if successful, gives a great sense of satisfaction.
Not sure when I'll get to the range again to try her out. Money's tight right now.
Thanks for everybody's input, and thank God we live in a Republic where we still have some freedoms left!
+1
and we all learn from these frustrations....
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OK, now I feel really stupid.
I just checked my paperwork and found that what I really bought and installed was the Tromix modified Fire Control Group, not the Tapco.
Sorry for the misdirection. So my understanding is that no mod was necessary with this one and as it turns out, maybe they took a little too much off?
I recently modified a G2 that I had laying around. I had the stock hammer and a Tromix modified hammer to refer to for measurements. The Tromix was a few thousandths narrower than the stock hammer, but I had already used the Tromix without any issues, period. Maybe someone got a little carried away or maybe they take them down a little further than the stock hammer to allow for inconsistencies from weapon to weapon. Glad you got it handled though. In Tromix's defense, these weapons, and nearly all AKs, aren't exactly one size fits all guns. In that aspect.... there's nothing like an AR, but that's another addiction.... um.... weapon, lol.
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lol Blender, is this a joke?
I'm with ya BA.... +1 , lol
BW certainly has the skills to pull a conversion off
BW,
.... you have nothing to fear but fear itself. Pull the trigger....
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I was talking to DaveM but if he does not want to try it, your welcome if he passes.. I can't shoot for a month so this offer is limited... Lol!!!
Slug-O
I'll just wait until you feel better and we'll go shoot somewhere. PM coming.
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I think the V grooves he is referring to are like the cut out portions of the Yankee Hill Machine Ultralight AR15 freefloat quad rails. Straight down the middle of the rail.
Yes, similar to the first pic, but more is machined out of the middle of the rail, in a v fashion.
Anyway, that 'edited by crackhead' comment had my sides hurting, lol.
Sorry, I was late replying. The above poster nailed it.
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what kind of hammer are you using? It almost sounds like too much metal may have been removed from the side where the BHO goes. Is the axis pin retainer holding the hammer pin in there good or has the hammer pin backed out a little. It just sounds like there is some 'slop' coming from somehwere that isn't normal.
Did you modify your BHO button? You can take too much off and the button will get stuck in there. Good luck with it. Let us know what it was. I'm curious....
Didn't modify anything. Used a Tapco single hook G2 trigger group. There definitely is a little slop. Will check it out further tomorrow.
Someone had to modify the G2 because they won't work in a S12 without taking material off of the hammer in two spots. I was just wondering if you did your own or bought it modified. Tromix offers a modded version. I think Red Jacket does too.
Also, sometimes it looks like the axis pin retainer is in there good and it isn't. That reminds me I want to try one of the flat retainers instead of the wire.
+1 on the pistol grip moving and engaging the button. Seems like there may be a couple things working together to cause the failure.
Hope you get it figured out. These weapons can be so frustrating, but it's one hell of a feeling when she runs good.
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what kind of hammer are you using? It almost sounds like too much metal may have been removed from the side where the BHO goes. Is the axis pin retainer holding the hammer pin in there good or has the hammer pin backed out a little. It just sounds like there is some 'slop' coming from somehwere that isn't normal.
Did you modify your BHO button? You can take too much off and the button will get stuck in there. Good luck with it. Let us know what it was. I'm curious....
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alright guys... you guys helped me with most of my stuff to this point. Now im to the point were im thinkin rail system.I got it down to knowing i want a tri rail and im pretty sure i want a kross or a chaos.i want to use a tlr light and a vfg on the bottom rail but need them to be a good space apart... so heres the questions.
#1. how many slots on the bottom rail?
#2. i figure 1 slot towards the front is used up by the mounting screw. is that slot still usable?
#3. (and you got to be a real nice guy to answer this one) How wide is the whole hand gaurd?
please answer these questions regardless of wich you have(just be sure to mention wich you have)... thanks in advance!!!
Got the Kross rail, it is a good rail and functions just fine, I am not like others on this board who marry their egos to their purchases. I like the fact that it is real narrow and conforms to the gun very tightly. My buddy has a Chaos on his gun and it is nice but way to big for my tastes.
#1 Bottom rail has 20 slots, only draw back is that the center of all rails have been v-grooved in an effort to save weight. Some vertical grips secure themselves to the material that was removed so you have to be creative to mount them.
#2 The slot is usable, bolt is counter sunk but again you need to be creative about what you mount.
#3 The gun with that rail is getting sights welded on so best guess is about a quarter inch wider than the reciever.
Niner,
I thought the Kross rail looked a little narrower and lighter than the Chaos rail. Hard to compare the two rails when all of the pics are from different views. Great info.
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Hey Blender,
It's been a while.... perfect union
Well, if you like the SAW grip the Tromix DIY trigger guard is a quick and easy install. If you want to use a traditional pistol grip, you may want to reuse the factory guard and weld it on.... or use factory type rivets if you can. I have a S12 with the factory unit welded on and the rear weld broke loose. I ended up tapping the reciever and putting an allen screw in it. It is under the grip, so it isn't visible. I think I am about to try the ETAC bolt-on trigger guard on the new Saiga I just ordered. I just ordered a few MD Arms Molot grips and I'll let you know how they work out. As far as buttstocks go, I tried some romy sidefolders and they were somewhat punishing on my S12s. I have tried a Tapco Warsaw length stock and it bruised me last time out.... and I don't bruise easy. I put the new AGP stock on one of them and it is very comfy. I really like it and it didn't break the bank. If you have the funds to get a triangle folder or a Bulgy type folder, I'd say go that route for the buttstock.
As far as fire control groups, I have used a Tromix modified Tapco and it is GTG. I have also modified a plain Tapco and it is fairly easy as long as you have a factory hammer to look at. Good luck with it and post some pics....
Not sure exactly what options you were referring to, but I hope this helps.
ETA: I just realized you said 'have' it converted.... sorry.
Ease of adjustment mod for gas plug
in Saiga-12
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I got bored....