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They can't seem to hire a decent designer. That looks much better than their last AK folder and at least the comb will be inline with the bore. I'd sooner get a Magpul Zhukov though. A little more money, but better looking and likely far higher quality. They have QD swivel socket and they collapse. They look nice on Saiga-12s too...

Not yet, but I'm sure it might be nice for sound sensitive people with a Salvo 12. It might take some of the scare out of it for new shooters too.

Anyone ever get one of these to run minimum dram loads?

I'm not sure if it will ever happen, but I have been wanting to move somewhere that I can shoot on site. This would have to happen in an area where ground water isn't an issue and in Open Rural zoning, which would generally be on the Northwest area in this county. I would dig a pond as deep as I could legally get away with and off of that pond I would dig at least one lane or a loop above the clay layer or at least above where I might expect maximum water level to be during the wet season. Dirt from the pond and lane or loop would be used to hide the lanes (blend from existing grade to top of berms) at the same time as creating a more generous berm by the lane being down below existing grade. I would like to not be able to see the lanes at all from the home, but at least be able to fire down one of the lanes from inside of my shop. That's kind of the point, open the door of the shop, wheel a custom shooting bench to the door, and fire from the comfort of shade and AC or go down to the lane and fire. All of my steel targets are on stands and angled down. The target design and having the actual shooting area below surrounding grade should eliminate ricochet. As far as landscaping goes, I would let everything grow wild except immediately around the house and shop, and a line from the shop to the target area. I'm not a fan of creating a lot of landscaping to maintain.

I'm not sure what to think of it.

Well, it does say 'any topic is welcome here'

Sorry, I goofed. $400 to true and blueprint would be 4x insanity, lol.

At 15 yards away you may not be getting enough shot on the target. As gunfun said try some chokes, different loads, or combinations of both. You might even try some Federal loads with the Flight Control hull, but up close it may be like firing a slug. I haven't had the opportunity to do much experimenting with them, but they are impressive.

Go here... GA Precision ETA: Edited for sanity. It is $100 to true and blueprint when they are installing and barrel at the same time. Barrel install is $290. Sorry. One can't even buy the tooling required to do this work for $400, so if I needed it done it wouldn't get done at my shop Out it would go... It is about $400 to true and blueprint an action and install a barrel (labor, no parts). These guys definitely know what they are doing. They do fluting and I would guess they do profiling, etc. but you will have to ask them.

It looks like the carrier skipped right over the locking cam on the bolt. Are the bolts really wobbly in these? I'm glad I wasn't there. The shooter is SO lucky none of that got the eyes, face, or unit (or did it?). That scarring on the arm looks like it may be worth a few bucks too. I'd like to see the manual and find out whether or not it states any ammunition limitations. 1.25 oz at 1700 fps is pretty hot. I'm not an expert on DE, but would hazard a guess that it is max dram. I was over firing 3" loads a long time ago. Too expensive and too punishing. If what I need to do requires 3" I'll just grab a rifle and fire more shots at whatever it is that needs to be utterly destroyed.

From my limited experience with the two... The KS-12 is beautifully made and is superior to the Russian guns in regards to build quality. Metallurgy? Rounds will tell. I want one of my own (I want to AOW a Comrade), but really need to offload some stuff first. I am finally starting that 6.5" build on a KS-12 for a customer. The Chinese guns (Lynx and Spets) look pretty good in regards to build quality and they have some well thought out deviations from the original design in a couple of spots. The trigger guard and safety are a little odd looking, but those are the only glaring dislikes that I have. the trigger guard is pretty easy to deal with and the safety just is what it is. I could get past it though. Both fullsize clones run impressively out of the box (the ones that I tested), but I can't speak for the short ones. I wish they would have done them with a short gas system, but on the other hand it affords me the opportunity to do some work on them

They need to bring that stupidity to Yulee, FL. It would get squashed quickly. Citizens and Police would be on them like a sledgehammer.

Wood can get expensive. You might check Ironwood Designs.

People come to me from time to time wanting a custom bolt gun built. I always refer them the GA Precision. I've never heard anything but people being impressed with their builds.

I think I'm digging that more than the MG.