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Bad Bob: In regards to your question on the loads: I use Remington 7 1/2 bench rest primers, Winchester brass and weigh each load individually. My Saiga will eat any thing but it does well with the above ingredients and the 24 grains of 3034 along with the 55 grain V-Max.

I have the long barreled .223 Saiga with a 3-7 Weaver scope. I tried a number of different handloads and anything over 55 grains grouped poorly in my rifle. I finally ended up shooting 55 grain V-Max with 24 grains of 3031. Five shot strings at a hundred yards consistently group out at a tad under two inches. That's what works best for me. Although I would be willing to try someone else's recipe if one comes up, for now I am sticking with the above load and no longer experimenting on my own. Hope this helps.

There's always E-Bay but you don't get much of a bargain as there always seems to be someone else who wants it as bad as you do. Coincidentally I have one in my lap now that I just got out of the mail box. Haven't even opened it yet.

Thanks for the insight Bossman. I took a .223 bullet which is 5.56 and it would almost fit between the scope and the rear sight which leads me to believe I have about 5mm of clearance. I'm going to try the low rings and if they don't work I have another rifle I can probably use them on. Also to Snake54: thanks for the load data. My Saiga is also the long barrel and when I get this all put together your recipe will be one of the first I try. Hopefully I'll have a range report in a week or two.

Bossman: Just read your response in regards to scope mounting and 40mm as a max size objective. I used a low mount Weaver rail, Millett adjustable rings and a Weaver 7-2x32 on my .223 Saiga with good results. I have just ordered another low Weaver mount for My Saiga .308 and am planning on mounting a Bushnell Elite 10x Mil Dot with 40mm objective. Any idea if the Millet low mount rings would allow for clearance on this? I am considering just getting a set of the medium height rings to be on the safe side but if it would work I would prefer the lower rings. Problem is that where I live ev

Went back to the range today for some new loads. Conditions were identical to my previous post except it was 65 degrees ABOVE which is fantastic for this time of year in Wyoming. I tried Sierra 52 grain match bullets with the following results: Powder Weight Bullet Primer Case !st 5 shot 2nd 5 shot 3031 25.5 Sierra 52 HP Rem 71/2 BR Win 2.5 3.0 Varget 26.0 Sierra 52 HP Rem 71/2 BR Win 3.0 3.0 H350 26.0

I am looking for a scope mount for my Saiga .308 and am a bit bewildered by the variety out there. Awhile back I purchased one off of EBAY for my .223 Saiga. It was a low mount with a Weaver rail which centered over the rifle and I am quite pleased with it but as nearly as I can tell, that fellow is no longer selling. Does anyone know where these can be found? Also - realizing that I may be moving in the opposite direction of many on this forum - does anyone sell decent wood stocks for the Saiga 308? Thanks for any help.

If only I could. Recent shoulder surgery makes the .223 about as heavy of a caliber as I can shoot - the doctors won't let me hunt this year and Wyoming won't let you use a .223 on big game - HOWEVER, this commie piece of crap does a lot better then I could have imagined given the price and the prarie dogs are dying - (That's not hunting is it???) I'm afraid I'm hooked...

Disclaimer: There is no way that anyone can tell what my real motives may be. I may be a serial killer or a terrorist. I may have designs on mass destruction - you just don't know. If you try to duplicate any of the loads that I have listed here they may blow you and your rifle up along with half of your county. You would be foolish to try any of these loads yourself but as consenting adults (For the most part) that decision will be yours. Okay - that was for the lawyers out there. Next: I have looked around for a number of loads for .223. and, based upon what I found and the

Does anyone know for sure if the rate of twist in the Saiga 21" barrels is the same (1x9) as it is in the 16" barrels? And if so, what is the heaviest bullet one can use with reasonable expectations? Thanks for any info.

Thanks for the advice. I settled for a Weaver Classic V Series scope in 2-7x32. I knew for sure it would fit and it also had a bit extra eye relief when compared to the other scopes. From Midway for $140.00. I also got the Millett adjustable rings. Took it to the range with a small sack of questionable .223 I handloaded around 1980 and had never labled. The Millett rings were great. First group at 25 yards was completely off of the paper but with a little bit of fiddling with the rings I got everything centered up and never had to mess with the scopes windage at all. Moving out to a hu

I am in the process of setting up a Saiga .223 with the long barrel. I know that all rifles are different but I am interested in any successful handload recipes with the Saiga. I will be punching paper, shooting prarie dogs and the occasional coyote. Any information will be appreciated. Thanks...

I just received a low rise scope mount (Weaver rail) which centers perfectly on my Saiga .223. I was wondering if I would need to get higher rings for a 40mm scope to clear the sight. I'd kind of like to keep the scope as low as possible and high rings would seem to defeat that purpose. If faced with the choice I would probably go with a 32mm scope. Also, I plan to go after prarie dogs and coyotes with occasional paper shooting. Suggestions for a decent scope in the $150 range? Thanks from Wyoming.

... for this little fellow. Okay - here's a range report but first the excuses: 102 dgrees with 10mph wind - but any day you can shoot is a good day. Old reloads that I did when I first got started reloading 25 years ago and didn't label (But hey - they fit in the rifle). 59 year old eyes. I only put 40 rounds through it and as a new rifle a few more rounds might help break it in. The trigger pull was attrocius but I expected that. Five shot groups were were just over an inch on a 25 yard range which works out to four to five inches at a hundred yards if everything stays the s

LvThemGuns is correct. I walked into FBMG (Draper)on the 15th and picked up a 20 inch .223 for $284.00 They also had a few of the shortt barreled versions in stock. I asked them why they advertised such a long wait on mail orders and he said that they posted the worst (longest) case scenario on the advertised waiting time so if anything, you would get your rifle quicker then advertised.