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Does K-USA offer spare parts? Theres still alot of S-12's and V-12's out there and Im confident people dont want them to turn into an oversized paper weight due to the failure of a bolthead,extractor or carrier. I gotta give R&R props for manufacturing spare parts and what do you know they sold out! I suggest the owner reconsider as I dont think his design of shotgun would begin to match the numbers of S12/v12's already sold and on the street or the K12 out now. Nothing against his design but they seem to to be niche of a niche and not to mention expensive.
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Theyve already made it clear that there would be no amnesty period or grandfathering. Just three options..turn em in, destroy them or face the penalties of possesing a unregistered machine gun. And lets not forget that once they were to get their foot in the door, that opens eveything up to regulation whether or not it meets the current legal definition of a machinegun. I mean damn they already consider a shoe lace with a loop tied in it to be a machine gun in of itself. If these regulations go through..say bye bye to everything. A trigger job can assist you in shooting faster, a muzzle break allow faster follow up shots..same with recoil reducing stock, vert grip, pistol grip etc. How about red dots for faster target aquisition? Or winchester 1300 where recoil assists in shucking the spent shell allowing you to pump the next round in? Doesnt benelli make recoil operated semis? The remington versamax? Damn..the whole idea of semi autos is to shoot faster, so that could be twisted to fall within there regulations too. Even magazines themselves facilitate faster reloading and therefore shooting..how about revolver speed loaders and speedstrips? Jerry Miculek? Forget about it..theyere going to have to put him under the jail.They need to re-classify bumpstocks as machineguns and have an amnesty period for them that will also allow us to register as many firearms as we can afford to put stamps on as machineguns. Hmmm... G17, AR, AK...
We need all hands on deck! Comment and comment often and as many times as you can. You dont need to use your real name or address..just make one up and keep commenting. I believe we will make it through this one, but the stakes are extremely high. Where is the nra and firearms personalities?? They need to be sounding the alarm big time! Even uncle fudds waterfowl hunting semi is at risk here! I personally have no use for a bump stock but thats not the point, we cant let them take anything else!
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remember, when they did shotguns study and we commented the rules (for shotguns atleast) got better, not worse, so dont listen to the negative nancys....
Yes I remember that well, we thought we were going to lose box fed shotguns, drums etc. Fortunately things went our way but that was no doubt do to the response of the people. You better believe theyve got the "multiple vote oblamanoid" trolls out in force, inflating the number of comments for regulating/reclassifying "rate increasing devices".
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I wonder if they have thought of this? Since the atf originally were the ones to sign off on and approve these so called "rate increasing devices", if they were to reclassify them as "machine guns" would that then make them an accomplice in the vegas shooting scam? Opening them up to big money $$$ suits on behalf of the survivors and victims families. Surely the "shooter" wouldnt have been able to commit such a act without these atf approved devices??
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The sick junkies are at it again. Theyre holding an open comment period for the public to voice their opinion. We need all hands on deck for this! Listen, even if you dont care about bumpstocks..do you care about trigger jobs, muzzle devices, recoil reducing stocks, lightened bcg or muzzle brakes? How about any semi automatic firearm?? Once they have their foot in the door, anything that can be twisted into being described as allowing you to shoot faster can be added to the list.
All this through backdoor means by a questionable "authority" with no oversight. These junkies arent elected..theyre appointed. This is a massive violation of all of our constitutional rights. Only congress and senate are authorized to make law..but these sick f*cks make regulations that have the same weight and consequences as law.
Please take a look and follow the link to add your comment.
https://www.gunownersamerica.com/atf-speak-up-now/?email=citestlist5000@gmail.com
Better yet use the same trick the demoncrats used to get oblama in and comment as many times as you can! Yes you must put a name and address to submit the comment to atf, but that doesnt mean it has to be your real name or address ( ;
"uncivilized" comments get scrapped since they are patheticaly weak and have low self esteem. So please comment in a professional manner.
Feel free to write or call your representatives and let them know that youll be watching how they react to this attack on our countries foundational values and will vote accordingly.
Mac video on the subject.
Iraqveteran8888 video on the subject
Sootch video on the subject
Now we see who our true allies are. Thanks nra for demanding that the atf do a study.
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Yet another vegas shooting survivor dead. Killed in a hit and run.
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It looks like R&R's scratch built shotgun may be identical to a S12 as far as critical parts, so hopefully they will offer more complete bolts and carriers in the future. The hard part is already done, they have all the specs and cad files Im sure. To anyone else who has the means to make and sell bolts,extractors,both pieces of the firing pin assembly,extractor springs etc..make em, then take our money! I mean seriously can these importers even honor their warranties at this point? Do they have the replacement parts even availible for warranty repair?
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Wow this one sure backfired on them lol.
https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1DK2OX
-"Aziz said Slide Fire was not named because most of his clients supported the right to bear arms.
"We want to focus on hotel and venue security, not turn this into a gun rights case," he said."-
Uh oh..nobodies buying the scam? We dont even have fabricated video evidence? the victims are supporting gun rights?? Quick bury the story NOW!!!! Stop all coverage and gag order everybody!! dag nabbit, we planned this elaborate scam and murdered innocent people FOR NOTHING!! Thats it..somebodies going to pay for this f**k up.
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So..the Hero Mr. Willeford was a NRA instructor, so much for the NRA being "terrorists". Man Im sure these demoncrat bastards are hating how this one turned out. Thank GOD this man was able to exercise his right to keep and bear arms, and protect himself and others.
Trump should honor this great man officially and publicly.
Excellent vid GunFun.
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American Hero who stopped the scumbag.
sick f*uck broke his toddler stepson's skull and abused his wife, causing court martial and discharge. he even abused his dog..what a absolute piece of sh!t. Former freinds say he was "vocally anti christian" and "pushed atheism". he wore a skull face mask during the shooting..what a loser.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/devin-patrick-kelley-texas.amp.html
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Yup bb gun or 10/22, cant go wrong! And with a 10/22 you have infinite options to upgrade in the future (father/son project).
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These people are absolutely disgusting. Unfortunately the freedom we've allowed in this country has also allowed these sick anti American scum to get into power positions and push their garbage and dillute our stregnth. Something will have to give at some point or we will completely lose our way of life and all that is good.
One problem is that they have infiltrated our educational system and indoctrinating the youth from a very young age. They say now that the majority of millenials support socialist/communist ideals, and that is a huge problem. The fact that we would even allow a commie like sanders to hold any position, let alone run for president, is a disgrace. The fact that we allow football players to disrespect our flag in public (even while in foriegn countries) and allow people to burn our flag is thoroughly disgusting.
Unfortunately the freedom that we have allowed may be what destroys us.
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I have the feeling this one will get buried real quick, especially since all signs are pointing towards radical left/athiest/antifa, who wasnt even legal to own a firearm. I dont believe they will be able to capitalize on this one. Kind of like how there was really no push for gun control after that lunatic communist democrat shot up the republican baseball game.
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Radical leftwing democrat bernie supporter and atheist according to his facebook page. With possible antifa ties. Dishonorably discharged from the air force. his killing spree was stopped by a citizen who shot him in the neck with a rifle.
https://mobile.twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/927324496788426752/photo/1
https://mobile.twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/927324269184471040/photo/1
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Yes it is extremely odd how the left run media would forfeit the opportunity to keep the event on peoples minds using emotions to stregnthen the push for more gun control. I think they were going to use this event to push their agenda but once they realized nobodies buying it, they were quick to just bury the whole thing and take the spotlight off of their scam. Out of sight, out of mind.
I like in the article how they compare the vegas event to the new york halloween terrorist attack and how much more info was revealed in less time from new york.
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Rest assured, every last survivor will die eventually..but..the number that have died just days or few weeks from sudden "natural causes", "suicide by shotgun to back of the head", multiple gunshot wounds and dumped in a vacant house, catastrophic car accident on a residential road etc. Is suspicious. Combine that with 2 of the dead publicly claimining multiple shooters and the "suicided" guy being linked to millitary comms equipment found in the "shooters" hotel room and well...its not looking good at all. This is just considering the newly dead survivors and not everything else that doesnt add up, like the accoustic evidence, 3x changing storyline, lack of any video in arguably the most survieled city in the world, mgm ceo dumping huge amount of stocks just before event etc..And wait ... there is still more ...
This according to FOX news, today, 30 October, 2017. There is now more. Or maybe so. Seems two of the survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were BOTH killed in a car accident when their vehicle crashed into a gate outside of their home. According the Fox it took firefighters over one hour to put out the resulting flames. Humm.
1) How the fuck do you crash hard into the gate in front of your home?
2) How and why did their car burst into flames?
3) Why did it take Firefighters, according to Fox news, over one hour to put out the flames? WTF?
Just how much Termite did the killers use? This is after they gimmicked the brakes? And probably disabled the air bags? But all of my questions are only to myself and have nothing to do with anything other than the meanderings of the mares nest of my feeble minds eye. I am wondering why it could be possible these two survivors saw or knew something ... then went public with it? Just reaching here.
Or ... considering the sheer number of survivors of Las Vegas who were not hurt, this sort of thing is only statistical and just happens?
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You got me
Im a CIA plant to discredit your brilliant undercover work unmasking the true intent of the vegas hoax.
My goodness I thought my secret identity was safe, but here I am lain bare by a forum member who has been here for a full 15 days.
BH
You have no idea how long Ive been here.
Ive been here since red jacket was a official vendor and people were sending their s12's in for conversion. Before they had their show.
Ive been here since your boy pauly was the guy to go to for bolt/carrier profiling/polishing.
Ive been here since the red dragon s12 030 sh!t fest.
Ive been here since before any 030/V12 magwells types were availible and Cobra and Tom Cole were trying to develop lrbho's.
Ive been here since Mike D and alliance arms had beef.
Where were you?
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Obama’s Administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Cass Sunstein, wrote:
"Of course some conspiracy theories, under our definition, have turned out to be true. The Watergate hotel room used by Democratic National Committee was, in fact, bugged by Republican officials, operating at the behest of the White House. In the 1950s, the Central Intelligence Agency did, in fact, administer LSD and related drugs under Project MKULTRA, in an effort to investigate the possibility of “mind control.” Operation Northwoods, a rumored plan by the Department of Defense to simulate acts of terrorism and to blame them on Cuba, really was proposed by high-level officials."
In April 1967, the CIA wrote a dispatch which coined the term “conspiracy theories” … and recommended methods for discrediting such theories. The dispatch was marked “psych” – short for “psychological operations” or disinformation – and “CS” for the CIA’s “Clandestine Services” unit.
The dispatch was produced in responses to a Freedom of Information Act request by the New York Times in 1976.
Summarizing the tactics which the CIA dispatch recommended.
-Claim that it would be impossible for so many people would keep quiet about such a big conspiracy.
-Have people friendly to the CIA attack the claims, and point back to “official” reports.
-Claim that eyewitness testimony is unreliable.
-Claim that this is all old news, as “no significant new evidence has emerged”.
-Ignore conspiracy claims unless discussion about them is already too active.
-Claim that it’s irresponsible to speculate.
-Accuse theorists of being wedded to and infatuated with their theories.
-Accuse theorists of being politically motivated.
-Accuse theorists of having financial interests in promoting conspiracy theories.
In other words, the CIA’s clandestine services unit created the arguments for attacking conspiracy theories as unreliable in the 1960s as part of its psychological warfare operations.
Please refer post #171 of this thread for images of the actual documents.
Thank you.
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O..k..and? Thats quite obvious. Its f*cking weird that they were glad their parents died sooner rather than MUCH LATER. Like idk...20 yrs later? I mean after all if theyre gonna die it might as well be weeks after the shooting in a burning car crash rather than of old age right??
"Little pieces of them" is allegory for the a bit of extra time that she had together with both of them after they survived the attack, and before they died.If they had to lose both their parents at the same time, they said they're thankful it happened so close to the time of the Las Vegas massacre.
"We were so relieved when they got out of the shooting alive," Brooke said. "But I also think we've been given little pieces of them that we would've never gotten if the shooting hadn't happened right before they died." --
Wtf??^
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Yet another dead vegas survivor/witness.
Link to his tweet where he claims to have been chased by 2 gunmen.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PGYOMikey/status/924285471777271808/photo/1
And now he's dead..
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more dead vegas survivors/witnesses.
"on the night of Oct. 16, the couple’s younger daughter, 16-year-old Madison Carver, heard a loud bang outside her window. When she ran down the street and rounded the corner, a familiar vehicle engulfed in flames came into view. Dennis, 52, and Lorraine, 53, had died together less than half a mile from their home.
According to the Riverside County Fire Department, their vehicle crashed into a metal gate outside their community at 10:50 p.m. on the 20000 block of Avenida De Arboles. It took firefighters nearly an hour to completely put out the fire, the department said in a statement."
Couple who survived shooting, die blocks from their home. Car bursts into flames that some describe as explosion? On a residential rd? What, were they doing 100mph?
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'Little pieces of them'
Where others see a tragedy, the couple's daughters see a show of love (which confuses us - the editor a tiny bit).
If they had to lose both their parents at the same time, they said they're thankful it happened so close to the time of the Las Vegas massacre.
"We were so relieved when they got out of the shooting alive," Brooke said. "But I also think we've been given little pieces of them that we would've never gotten if the shooting hadn't happened right before they died." --"
Wtf??^
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Over fifty years after the JFK assassination the federal government refuses to release all the files, why?
Many could speculate on the excuses. What's in the files we the people are not allowed to view?
Should we trust the gov to release facts about the Vegas or Sandy Hook incidents or any other major story?
Absolutely not.
They will most certainly won't. But ... understand sometimes Governments MUST lie or omit facts or truth from the people. Most of the sheeple can not stand or bear the truth. Sad but true. But there must be a general accounting of behavior from elected and appointed officials.
A long ago far away story. Briefly: back in about 1975 we received a classified, (low level) briefing from some Air Force and Army guys on what would happen to our large horrible Central Valley CA city if there was even a limited thermal nuclear war. Kiss our ass good by. 10,000+ rems.
We were ORDERED by the City Manager NOT TO TELL anybody what we firefighters learned. They probably should not have told us the risks of nuclear bombing. We clammed up to our friends and public but lots of us made plans to boggie if possible. I got out in 1987. Moved to Oregon.
But before that happened it was business as usual teaching civic groups the benefits of just a central closet and aluminum foil on the windows. We were ordered to lie through omission. Perhaps others here will also share their stories where governments lied to them and the citizens.
Excellent post Sir. I would love to hear what anyone has to contribute as well. To be honest at this point nothing would suprise me, no matter how sick or heinous. We are dealing with a bunch of sick junkies.
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One difference between vegas and sandyshook is that sandyshook was a much smaller scene, almost secluded. Sandyshook was far easier to secure and control.
Another difference is there are actual survivors who are talking, many of which are going against the "official theory" of a single shooter. And some are turning up dead after surviving "the worst mass shooting in u.s. history".
So it seems that the "shooter" was unable to achieve the 99% + kill rate that lanza supposedly achieved despite lanza only weighing 85lbs just 2 years before and being described as unable to tie his own shoes.
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Extortion/damage control?
Why would he bring a laptop with no hard drive? If he killed himself, then where did the hard drive go? If he was going to die anyway, why worry about what was on it?
Lets not forget his home was broken into after the shooting.
Atf announces possible regulations on fire rate increasing devices!
in General Discussion - Any topic is welcome here!!!
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Mr.guns&gear video on the subject.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yQYzWCLnB24
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