crafty101 2 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 I had my saiga 12 converted by a gunsmith who i thought was doing a good job but. the trigger wont reset which i mean it will feed a couple times then you have to push the trigger forward to get it to fire, sometimes it will shoot a couple times then it will happen, im using surefire mags, i have 1 md drum and 1 20 promag drum and it happends on any mag, But if you dry fire it the trigger resets it self fine, only when you shoot it, Ive taken back several times to the gunsmith but apperently he cant figure it out, so thats why i'm looking for a company to send it too, so they can go competely through the whole gun and redo or fix anything they find. Thanks for your reply's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KC913 324 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Remove the top cover and take a picture of the fire control group if you can and post it. Sounds like an issue with your hammer spring. Edit: Are you using a shepards crook or a retaining plate for the pins? Edited November 12, 2010 by KC913 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crafty101 2 Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Remove the top cover and take a picture of the fire control group if you can and post it. Sounds like an issue with your hammer spring. Edit: Are you using a shepards crook or a retaining plate for the pins? Retaining plate Remove the top cover and take a picture of the fire control group if you can and post it. Sounds like an issue with your hammer spring. Edit: Are you using a shepards crook or a retaining plate for the pins? Retaining plate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raymundo 4 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 His springs look different Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crafty101 2 Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 i bought the Spring at carolina shooters supply. they have a video on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Your BHO is pushing the right side of the mainspring toward the center of the trigger's legs. This is a VERY common issue post-conversion. The end of the spring leg needs to be seated all the way toward the right (BHO side) of the gun, meaning the parts of the springs that are bent to hook over the trigger legs to keep the spring from slipping off should be touching the inside surfaces of the trigger legs. This provides for a touch more leverage to reset the trigger. You can do it with a pair of pliers in less than 1 minuet. A slight outward bend in the center of the BHO side of the leg of the spring should fix the problem. I'm sure it would fix the problem with the factory spring, but yours is reduced power. You're running a reduced power mainspring... Why? Also, a drop of oil on the trigger axis wouldn't hurt. ETA; Why is there a cutout on the receiver for a double-hook when you're running a single hook FCG? Edited November 12, 2010 by Paulyski 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crafty101 2 Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Your BHO is pushing the right side of the mainspring toward the center of the trigger's legs. This is a VERY common issue post-conversion. The end of the spring leg needs to be seated all the way toward the right (BHO side) of the gun, meaning the parts of the springs that are bent to hook over the trigger legs to keep the spring from slipping off should be touching the inside surfaces of the trigger legs. This provides for a touch more leverage to reset the trigger. You can do it with a pair of pliers in less than 1 minuet. A slight outward bend in the center of the BHO side of the leg of the spring should fix the problem. I'm sure it would fix the problem with the factory spring, but yours is reduced power. You're running a reduced power mainspring... Why? Also, a drop of oil on the trigger axis wouldn't hurt. ETA; Why is there a cutout on the receiver for a double-hook when you're running a single hook FCG? thats what carolina shooting supply sold me they told me it would help with a better and smother trigger, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Well, just try the slight outward bends to get the ends of the spring legs seated on the trigger legs, put a drop of oil on the axis pin, & try it. If it still fails to reset, swap it for the old heavier spring. Here's a video that will help explain the process for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yek8AfLlu-s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PRISONSHANK 70 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I think you hit the nail on the head here Paulie... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crafty101 2 Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Well, just try the slight outward bends to get the ends of the spring legs seated on the trigger legs, put a drop of oil on the axis pin, & try it. If it still fails to reset, swap it for the old heavier spring. Here's a video that will help explain the process for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yek8AfLlu-s I dont have the old heavier spring the gunsmith kept it and when i called to see if he still had it he said no. I'm going to try the first plan. If that dont do it where can i get another heavier spring thanks for your help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 It's just a standard braided AK hammer spring (also called mainspring) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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