liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 I just got a Vepr 223 and after doing all of my 922r changes i will be running 30rnd mags in it. I would like to ask you guys if you could take measurements of what ever magazines you use in your Saiga 223. Specificall they front, rear, and sides of the top of the mag. I run SGM/Surefires in my Saiga's and they run .85" front x 1.02" rear and 2.47" long Vepr mags run .72" front x .96" rear and 2.55" long If I can find a mag close to the Vepr mag it will reduce the amount of mods needed to the gun or mags I run in it. Thanks in advance for the help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Wouldn't you get the same answer from measuring the magwell of both rifles to see if they're the same to begin with? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Vepr magwell measurement. Front .79" Rear .96" Long 2.67" Saiga magwell measurement Front .92" Rear .1.02" Long 2.67" Not the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Spend a little time with a file, and you'll be good to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 My thought is different mags may subs similar dimensions to the Vepr and I may not have to file if I can find the right mags. Just don't want to buy one of each to find out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) OK here are a few Steel Galil: Front .86", rear .98", long 2.57" - No Tapco Galil: front .86", rear .99", long 2.59" - No Promag AK-223 (non-Saiga): front .71", rear .94", long 2.48" - Yes Polish Beryl: front .73", rear .96", long 2.66" - Yes Edited October 10, 2012 by mancat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 My thought is different mags may subs similar dimensions to the Vepr and I may not have to file if I can find the right mags. Just don't want to buy one of each to find out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) I wonder if circle 10's would fit, as they are slimmer than the factory Saiga mags? ETA: Liberty, if you want to I can send you one of my circle 10 mag bodies with no guts so you can test the fit and mail it back to me, if you'd like. Just pm me your info if your interested man. Edited October 10, 2012 by Captain Hero Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Will do Captain Hero. OK here are a few Steel Galil: Front .86", rear .98", long 2.57" - No Tapco Galil: front .86", rear .99", long 2.59" - No Promag AK-223 (non-Saiga): front .71", rear .94", long 2.48" - Yes Polish Beryl: front .73", rear .96", long 2.66" - Yes Thanks for the help mancat! Edited October 10, 2012 by liberty -r- death Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 The Promag are clones of the Circle 10 mags. They should probably work fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 If the circle ten is the same as the Promag I'll probably go with circle ten. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikebaker1129 19 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 The Polish Beryl mags fit as do the Bulgy circle 10's in my Vepr. Bulgys were tight the first few insertions , but they got better over time. Mine is one of the older RA conversions and the AK74 mags fit and function well. Mine was built using the AK74 mag pattern and East German bakelite mags snapped in with no resistence at all. My rifle came from the factory with a German 5.45 mag converted to .223 by RA and it has been flawless, no matter what the many naysayers continue to say about these not feeding all 30 rds. They do work! I purchased a few of the follwers and modified a few of my own and they work also. This was a viable option back in the day when .223 AK mags were tough to find and 5.45 mags were cheap and readily available. Hope this helps.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 It's always great to hear from someone that is using an item. When I do my Vepr conversion review I'll point out that the polish beetle do in fact work. Thanks mikebaker1129 for the help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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