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#1 Belloc

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 06:03 AM

I have read that that since Veprs have a larger diameter rear sight block, the Titan dust cover rail will not fit them.

I noticed on the Chaos webpage there is an option for Saigas and for AK47s. 

http://www.chaosus.c..._QUAD_RAIL_REAR

What is the difference between the two? And any idea if Titan rear rail will work on a Mak-90, or does it also have a larger diameter rear sight block? 

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Posted 05 January 2015 - 06:40 PM

Differance between saiga 7.62 and AK is hardware, as far as a mak 90 I'd say it should fit. It may take a little fitting but I think it will go on.



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Posted 05 January 2015 - 07:12 PM

Ok, however I don't know what you mean exactly by "hardware". Could you please explain?

I ordered a Titan rail for a Mak-90 from CSS because they have them in stock at the moment, but then only later noticed the two options on the Chaos website, which the CSS website does not have. 

Thanks for the help. 



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 09:19 AM

An AK titan has a different rear key than the Saiga 7.62, also the Saiga 7.62 requires a split brackett that we manufacture for mounting the front of rail since there is no front hand guard retainer like on a traditional AK. You will require the AK Titan from what I can tell looking @ online pics of the Mak-90.



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 09:46 AM

Ok, I think I am following now, and this video was helpful.

So there are differences between the front hand guard hardware, but no differences with the over the dust cover rail seen here:

 

Titan_zps1c606835.jpg

 

Correct? 

 

 



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:35 PM

Correct!



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Posted 03 March 2015 - 07:10 PM

Sad to report the Titan AK dustcover rail will not fit either on a milled SLR-95 or a Mak-90. 

The rear sight block is simply too wide. This photos of the gas tube release lever shows the difference. 

 

001B_zps48eca3db.jpg


Edited by Belloc, 03 March 2015 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2015 - 06:27 PM

Sad to report the Titan AK dustcover rail will not fit either on a milled SLR-95 or a Mak-90. 

The rear sight block is simply too wide. This photos of the gas tube release lever shows the difference. 

 

001B_zps48eca3db.jpg

With a slight mod, removing about .03 off the inside of our hinge area on both sides will allow our rear rail to fit. People have been fitting these on milled receivers from the get go. You can't go by your comparison of the two pins shown above as the variables don't apply, hope this helps.


Ok, I think I am following now, and this video was helpful.

So there are differences between the front hand guard hardware, but no differences with the over the dust cover rail seen here:

 

Titan_zps1c606835.jpg

 

Correct? 

yes.



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Posted 04 March 2015 - 06:53 PM

This is on a SAM 7R with a milled receiver.

milled-AK.jpg



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Posted 04 March 2015 - 07:19 PM

Perhaps a different rear sight block? Clearly from the pics of the milled and stamped gas tube lever there is a difference in width.

 

 

This is as far down as the rail will go. 

IMG_1763_zpsdv8dvfhh.jpg

 

The wider than stamped rear sight block just stops it cold from going any further. 

IMG_1766_zps93tv9oww.jpg



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Posted 05 March 2015 - 01:06 PM

Perhaps a different rear sight block? Clearly from the pics of the milled and stamped gas tube lever there is a difference in width.

 

 

This is as far down as the rail will go. 

IMG_1763_zpsdv8dvfhh.jpg

 

The wider than stamped rear sight block just stops it cold from going any further. 

IMG_1766_zps93tv9oww.jpg

That's because you haven't removed any material from either side of the hinge area! These are not designed to just slip on a milled receiver, you have just sprung the hinge to get it over the rear sight block, so yeah that's not going to fit like that. I have attached an image showing you where to remove material.

 

mod for milled recevier.JPG



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Posted 29 May 2015 - 06:09 PM

Not having anything much beyond what's in the toolbox, what is needed to best grind away enough metal to get it to fit?

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Posted 04 June 2015 - 10:10 AM

We have a custom shop for fitting these now, call our customer service for price and time. If you want to do it yourself, I would used an angle grinder, just remember to remove same amount from each side until it fits. 



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Posted 17 July 2015 - 10:58 AM

So I just telephoned and was told that you do not take orders over the phone for this item and to instead "fill out the comments section" when I place the order online. 


Edited by Belloc, 17 July 2015 - 10:59 AM.


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Posted 20 July 2015 - 09:49 AM

I think there been a misunderstanding, we do take over the phone orders for these, customer service just wasn't sure if you could use it for that application. 






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