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Sorry, I thought I had a scoop for ya'll.

I posted this in the general discussion section, but I'll also post it here since I shoot a .223 Saiga: I hope this link works. I stumbled onto this new sight for AK's while looking for 10/22 sights. Looks like a great way to upgrade the iron sights on an AK without resorting to welding on H&K style sights. The prices for their 10/22, SKS, etc. sights range from about $50 up to $70, so the AK sights should be priced reasonably as well. www.tech-sights.com/ak.htm I've never tried to put a direct link into a post before, so you may have to copy and paste the link into your search

I hope this link works. I stumbled onto this new sight for AK's while looking for 10/22 sights. Looks like a great way to upgrade the iron sights on an AK without resorting to welding on H&K style sights. The prices for their 10/22, SKS, etc. sights range from about $50 up to $70, so the AK sights should be priced reasonably as well. http://www.tech-sights.com/ak.htm I've never tried to put a direct link into a post before, so you may have to copy and paste the link into your search window.

Guys, for now I'd like to keep my rifle in the non-converted form. Will the fire control group that Dinzag sells for the non-converted (FCG not moved) rifles improve the trigger pull as compared to the stock trigger? I believe they are the only ones selling this option. Does anyone have experience with this TAPCO fire control group? Lastly, how many 922r compliant parts would this FCG add?

SPDSniper, I missed the part of your first post that said you can't find a forearm retaining screw. On my rifle, the screw is under the receiver and immediately behind where the forearm enters the receiver. It is a flat-tip screwdriver style. That should be the only screw holding your forearm on to the rifle. Once I removed that screw, I was able to tap the forend off of the rifle with the wood block and hammer. As the one poster above said, you first have to remove the gas tube in order to remove the forearm.

I just recently bought my first Saiga rifle, a .223. Not only was the gas tube nearly impossible to get off at first, I also ran into the same problem you're having with the forearm. Here's what worked for me: I removed the forearm screw and tried everything I could to wiggle the forearm loose without any luck. Finally, I got a thin block of wood from the garage and placed the rifle with the muzzle of the barrel on the floor (carpeted and on top of a towel to protect the muzzle), then placed the wood at the end of the forearm nearest the receiver (pick a side). A few gentle taps of a h

Yes, I'm looking at keeping the Saiga Unconverted right now. Thanks!

I've decided to keep my .223 rifle's FCG in the stock position for now. I want to add a collapsing (6 postition) stock like the military M4 to my rifle. Does anybody besides Tapco make a stock for the non-converted Saiga .223? Of those members who have the Tapco collapsing stock, are you happy with it or not? Thanks!

I recently bought my first Saiga (.223 rifle) and have started to modify it. Since I don't like the idea of going to jail, I'd like some help in staying 922r compliant. I saw several Saigas with their original forearms modified with holes drilled, so I just did that to mine. For now, I'd like to do put my .223 into the following configuration: Original forearm Tapco collapsing stock Surefire 30rd. magazines The Tapco stock and forearm are listed as 2 compliance parts. The Surefires are listed as 3 compliance parts. Since my rifle originally did not come with a pistol grip, does

You're probably right. I'm getting one anyway!

I'm definatley going to add a DPH muzzle brake to my gun. Does anyone know if the DPH muzzle brake counts as a US part for 922r compliance?

For anyone who encounters an EXTREMELY tight fighting gas tube in the future: The issue on my new Saiga .223 was NOT that I could not rotate the little lever on the side of the receiver that unlocks the gas tube. The lever was tight, but it was easy enough to rotate using the slot in the cleaning pod. Even when this lever was unlocked the gas tube was a very tight fit and was impossible to move without tools (pliers over a towel). I was finally able to remove the gas tube, but when I put it back on it was extremely hard to remove again. I was really demoralized, as others here said how

Thanks, gang. That DPH flash hider/brake is definately going on my rifle, as is the Surefire forearm. I think I'm going to leave the trigger where it is for now and go with the Ace no-modification folding stock. Then maybe an Ultimak gas tube rail. This bug bites bad!

CarolinaSS: That's a sweet looking rifle. I think I'll go with the Surefire forearm. What flash hider and/or muzzle brake is on that gun? (NEVER MIND. It's a DPH, just found it on your site). Any preference between the DPH tri-rail and the Surefire forearm? dftc: I had to laugh when you said "if you can use a screw driver" you can install the Surefire. That's about the extent of my mechanical ability, but I'm learning slowly! I look foreward to learning more quickly as I "mod" my Saiga.

Has anybody tried the Strikeforce (ATI?) forearm on a Saiga .223. Does this forearm fit the Saiga rifles, or are they somehow different than a standard AK in the forearm/gas tube area? I'm not interested in the Strikeforce stock, just the forearm. I'm leaning toward an Ace folding stock for the rear. If the Strikeforce will not fit without alterations, has anybody tried the Surefire forearm on a .223? Are there any pros or cons with either forearm that a newbie might overlook? One last question (sorry), now that I got my tightly fitted gas tube off, is there any trick to removi

Thanks again for all the replies and suggestions. It is really tough to get the tube off of the gun, much easier to put it back on. I'm hoping that it will wear-in a little as I take it on and off. I'll also try the gun lube until it wears in, as it's a very tight fit.

Got it! Man was that a pain in the... Fingers. It was not the little release lever that was stuck, that thing I was able to move back and forth with no problem. It was the gas tube assembly that was really, really, really (you get the idea) tight into the receiver. I had to work it loose a little bit at a time, and I think the oil might have helped. Now I'm afraid to put it back on, but it will hopefully wear in over time.

Got it! Man was that a pain in the... Fingers. It was not the little release lever that was stuck, that thing I was able to move back and forth with no problem. It was the gas tube assembly that was really, really, really (you get the idea) tight into the receiver. I had to work it loose a little bit at a time, and I think the oil might have helped. Now I'm afraid to put it back on, but it will hopefully wear in over time. Thanks for all the help. I look forward to continuing to learn from all of you guys on the Saiga forum!

OK. I'll try shutting the lever and whacking the gas tube. I've hit it about 100 times now, but it doesn't want to come loose. Maybe hitting it before the lever is rotated will help. I sure hope it does, because my fingers are getting torn up from trying to lift the tube up from the back and I'm getting ready to call it a night! Thanks for the replies.

I've posted this on the .223 Forum, but I figure it really ought to be posted here in the Tech forum: New to the forums, but I've been lurking for a while. After reading TONS of posts here, I decided to buy a Saiga .223. You guys were right, these guns rock. I was amazed at just how easy they are to field strip (more on that later), more like a Glock or a Sig than a Colt pistol. I shot the gun for the first time today and loved it. Soon I will start "making it mine" with a bunch of modifications, once I make up my mind exactly what I want the gun to look like and handle like. Now for my fi

I've tried and tried, but I haven't been able to get it off. It must be a really tight fit. I've opened and closed the lever at least 20 times and tried to lift out the gas tube wtih no luck. Like I said earlier, I've tapped on quite a bit and have only managed to have it move just a little bit. I just oiled the tube where it meets the receiver, so hopefully it will seep in and loosen things up. Is this unusual to my rifle, or do they come really tightly fitted and loosen up over time?

New to the forum, but I've been lurking for a while. After reading TONS of posts here, I decided to buy a Saiga .223. You guys were right, these guns rock. I was amazed at just how easy they are to field strip (more on that later), more like a Glock or a Sig than a Colt pistol. I shot the gun for the first time today and loved it. Soon I will start "making it mine" with a bunch of modifications, once I make up my mind exactly what I want the gun to look like and handle like. Now for my first NEWBIE question: Just how and the heck do you get the gas tube off? If I've read the manual and