Thanks again everyone. Say, so is the twist rate on the 16 incher also 1 in 12? If so, then perhaps the 22 incher will stabilize 174s, but not-so-well on the 16? Or does the 16 have a 1 in 10 twist? I ask because I'm thinking of getting the 16" one also as a pickup gun, but if I did, I'd want to find one good load to load up in quantity (handload) for both, and I prefer *generally* heavier bullets with better BCs and penetration for hunting and other purposes, so I'm interested in 180s or 174s, or at a minimum, 168s, that will be accurate in both. Or, if this is not possible, I'd probably