notoriginal79

ehhhh I have tinkered with my fair share of guns and have a great success rate but they were all cheap. I can't see paying 600, 700, all the way up to 1200 for a gun that isn't flawless when I can still buy a regular ak for 375 that will fire even if I throw it off of my roof onto my concrete driveway then back over it with my car causing it to flip into a pile of mud where I can let it lay for a week until its rusty then kick open the bolt and have it fire perfectly. Its not the messiah its a shotgun. If its cheap then its worth it if its not then its a piece of s.

Understood. I'm not trying to hijack the thread.. just giddy with the thought I might be able to run out and buy a tuned up FAL. Guess I'll have to wait until I'm lucky enough to find a deal too good to pass up and pray. Speaking of .308 though, I've often wondered about how to make duplex or triplex 308 rounds. Ideally, you could get 2 or 3 50gr projectiles into a 308 casing, so it would sort of be like a poor man's tri-burst. Kind of like the inverse of what we're seeing here. The idea there is that you could have something like a Saiga 308 that could do double duty as CQ weapon with

Well, the idea is to have a projectile that is useful to longer ranges than, say, ordinary buck shot. The thought being.. if you could just get a slug accurate and powerful enough to be a one-shot stop at 100 yds, then you'd have a gun that dominates the 0-50yd range (buckshot) and is servicable out to 100 yds with slugs. A formidable weapon. The idea is not to be able to shoot out to 600 or 700 yds like a .308. The idea is to extend the useful range of a shotgun beyond CQB. And please show me a reference for a sub-MOA FAL. A built rifle for sale would be great.. but even just a smit

ok now most of my experince is with reloading pistol and rifle rounds but why bother trying to do something so out of the 12 guage realm. If you want a long range rifle that will pierce body armor buy an fal. 20rd .308 mine is more accurate then a m-14 and has been as reliable as an ak. If you want something really big get a .458 and load 500gr solids. NOW as far as a super hunting slug what about the lyman .69 caliber 730 grain black powder rifle mold. Seems to me one should be able to pop that into a wad just like the lee 1oz slug and fire it around 1200 fps. Its nose heavy like the le