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Recently obtained a Saiga 7.62 and am hoping to get some input from the forum here. At what range would you recommend I sight the rifle in at? Once sighted in at that range, would point of aim and point of impact converge anywhere else? At other standard ranges (ie every 100 yards), how high or low would the bullet impact? What is the maximum effective range? Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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The 7.62x39 has similar ballistics as a .30 30 Winchester

I'd recommend it being sighted in at 100 yards.

 

From Winchester's Website... www.winchester.com

 

Cartridge 7.62x39mm Russian

Bullet Wt. Grs. 123

Bullet Type Full Metal

CXP Guide No. NA

Barrel Length (in) NA

 

Velocity in Feet Per Second (fps)

Muzzle 2355

100 2026

200 1726

300 1463

400 1247

500 1093

 

Energy in Foot Pounds (ft-lbs.)

Muzzle 1515

100 1121

200 814

300 584

400 425

500 326

 

Trajectory, Short Range Yards

50 0.5

100 0

150 -2.6

200 -4.6

250 -15.6

300 -27.1

400 -

500 -

 

Trajectory, Long Range Yards

100 3.8

150 3.2

200 0

250 -6.1

300 -15.6

400 -47.6

500 -102

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Recently obtained a Saiga 7.62 and am hoping to get some input from the forum here. At what range would you recommend I sight the rifle in at? Once sighted in at that range, would point of aim and point of impact converge anywhere else? At other standard ranges (ie every 100 yards), how high or low would the bullet impact? What is the maximum effective range? Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

Using the Remington Shoot free ballistics program I downloaded, I figured that a 190yd zero range with the 7.62x39 will shoot 3 inches high at 100yds and won't drop to 3 inches below zero until about 225yds, so that gives you a "point-blank range" of 225yds with a 190yd zero. If you draw a 6 inch diameter circle on your chest you will see that if you within 3 inches high or low of where you're aiming if you are aiming for the center of mass of a badguy, you'll be fine out to 225yds.

 

Hope that was helpful!

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Recently obtained a Saiga 7.62 and am hoping to get some input from the forum here. At what range would you recommend I sight the rifle in at? Once sighted in at that range, would point of aim and point of impact converge anywhere else? At other standard ranges (ie every 100 yards), how high or low would the bullet impact? What is the maximum effective range? Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

Using the Remington Shoot free ballistics program I downloaded, I figured that a 190yd zero range with the 7.62x39 will shoot 3 inches high at 100yds and won't drop to 3 inches below zero until about 225yds, so that gives you a "point-blank range" of 225yds with a 190yd zero. If you draw a 6 inch diameter circle on your chest you will see that if you within 3 inches high or low of where you're aiming if you are aiming for the center of mass of a badguy, you'll be fine out to 225yds.

 

Hope that was helpful!

 

 

Thank you both! Exactly what I was looking for!

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I chronographed Wolf. Based on the average velocity and a few different sources on the ballistic coefficient of the bullet....here's some data. This was from a 16" barrel. Some places list the BC being as low as .180, with others as high as .280. .280 is way too generous in my experience, and .180 a bit low.

 

 

Name: 7.62x39mm

BC:			 0.2400 (G1)	 Temperature:	 73.0 degrees   Cant Angle:		0.0 deg.
Weight:		 124.0 grains	Humidity:		  73 %		 Sight-In Range:	200 yd.
Caliber:		.311			Pressure:	   29.92 in.	   Muzzle Angle:	8.466 moa
Sight Height:   2.00 inches	 Crosswind:		8.0 mph	   TargetSpeed:	   0.0 mph
LOS Angle:	  0.0 degrees	 Altitude:		  25 ft.	   Target Angle:	 90.0 deg.
Sect. Density:  0.183		   Air Density:   0.0738 lb./ft.^3
							Air Density:	 96.5 % of Sea Level



Range	 Drop	 Velocity	Energy	Momentum   Windage	 Lead	 Time   Elevation
(Yards)  (inches)   (ft/sec)   (ft-lbs)   (lb-sec)   (inches)  (inches)  (secs)	(moa)

0	 -2.00	  2345.0	 1514.0	 1.2913	  0.00	   0.0	0.000	  -----
  25	  0.00	  2259.8	 1406.0	 1.2443	  0.09	   0.0	0.033	   0.00
  50	  1.58	  2176.3	 1304.0	 1.1984	  0.35	   0.0	0.066	   3.16
  75	  2.70	  2094.5	 1207.9	 1.1533	  0.80	   0.0	0.102	   3.60
 100	  3.32	  2014.6	 1117.4	 1.1093	  1.44	   0.0	0.138	   3.32
 125	  3.41	  1936.6	 1032.5	 1.0664	  2.28	   0.0	0.176	   2.72
 150	  2.91	  1860.5	  953.0	 1.0245	  3.35	   0.0	0.216	   1.94
 175	  1.79	  1786.4	  878.6	 0.9837	  4.64	   0.0	0.257	   1.02
 200	 -0.01	  1714.6	  809.4	 0.9441	  6.18	   0.0	0.300	  -0.01
 225	 -2.56	  1645.1	  745.1	 0.9058	  7.96	   0.0	0.344	  -1.14
 250	 -5.90	  1578.0	  685.6	 0.8689	 10.02	   0.0	0.391	  -2.36
 275	-10.12	  1513.7	  630.8	 0.8335	 12.35	   0.0	0.440	  -3.68
 300	-15.29	  1452.2	  580.7	 0.7997	 14.98	   0.0	0.490	  -5.10
 325	-21.49	  1393.9	  534.9	 0.7675	 17.90	   0.0	0.543	  -6.61
 350	-28.81	  1338.9	  493.5	 0.7372	 21.13	   0.0	0.598	  -8.23
 375	-37.34	  1287.4	  456.4	 0.7089	 24.68	   0.0	0.655	  -9.96
 400	-47.19	  1239.9	  423.2	 0.6827	 28.54	   0.0	0.715	 -11.80
 425	-58.45	  1196.4	  394.1	 0.6588	 32.71	   0.0	0.776	 -13.75
 450	-71.22	  1157.2	  368.7	 0.6372	 37.19	   0.0	0.840	 -15.83
 475	-85.63	  1122.1	  346.7	 0.6179	 41.96	   0.0	0.906	 -18.03
 500   -101.75	  1090.9	  327.7	 0.6007	 47.01	   0.0	0.974	 -20.35

 

That's for a 200 yard zero. Doesn't even go 4" high inbetween. Out to 350 yards, it's hitting like a .357mag. Not bad, but not what you'd want from a rifle. Like the .223, these cartridges are 200-250 yard cartridges. They were never meant to be the long-range .30 cal "battlerifle" cartridges of WW2 where you extend good performance out to 600 yards.

 

 

So, with 200 yard zero, you're basically point-blank-range to 275 yards easy. PBR means you don't have to adjust your elevation. Just point and shoot and you will hit. This is assuming that you're kill-zone is 11" or so...which is about the typical width of the vital zone.

 

 

IN order to sight in for 200 yards using this data (your data and variables might be different)...you'd have to zero at 25 yards.

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