Chuck 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 (edited) Hi, I am about to buy my first Saiga. I was looking for some cheap ammo to burn up. I found some Czech 1980 issue white tip target, 122 grain lead core for $79 per 1040 rds. No sales tax or shipping. What do you guys think about this ammo? Thanks for the help...Chuck Edited September 29, 2004 by Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aka108 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Never tried the Czech ammo. Have been using Barnaul soft points in the Saigas and fairly well pleased. It seems to leave a lot less residue than Wolf which is pretty dirty. Use Cheetah in my SAM-7. It leaves little residue and is brass cased. It prices out at $144 for a case of 1440 rds plus shipping from Salt Lake City, UT. The Barnaul is obtained from Midway at $80.00 per 1000rd plus Shipping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Hi Aka, Thanks for the tip. It looks like even at the higher costs the Barnaul ammo would be better. Midway is out of stock right now but I will keep an eye on their website. My eyesight not being what it used to be, which would be a better way to go, the Krebs peep sight or a red dot scope?....Thanks...Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaShooter 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 (edited) I shoot Barnaul 123 grain FMJ. 500 rounds for $60.12 shipped from www.northwestloading.com oops, that shoud have been 500 not 5000. Edited September 29, 2004 by SaigaShooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siagalova 0 Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I personally think the red dot is the perfect setup for this rifle! both eyes open - it's real easy to sight in and everyone you let shoot your gun can understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck 0 Posted September 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Hey Guys, Thanks for the help. Which mount would be best for the Tasco Red Dot and where is the best place to buy it.....Thanks...Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siagalova 0 Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 get something with a weaver rail, that way if you ever want to change you have the option. kalinkaoptics is good. mostly most $40.00 rails will work. don't get this one: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aka108 0 Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 The made in Belarus mount is OK only on the Romanian made AK's. You can get it on the Russian guns but it won't stay. If you eyes are like mine, you don't need a peep sight. Get the red dot type and it will do you well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LeadMonkey 0 Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Barnaul 123 grain FMJ is great. I buy it for 2.99 a box of 20 rounds at Academy. But I am interested in the white tip ammo from ammoman 1040 for 80 bucks although it doesnt say non corosive and its been around for 20 years. Wish I could sample a box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
prophageus 0 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 How does all that ammo at AIM surplus compare?? Anyone bought from them? Which is the best 7.62x39 they have? Wtf is that nipple ammo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siagalova 0 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 I called j&G one time and shipping is app. $20. the nippled ammo I've seen is silver bear "match" ammo. it has a nipple on the point. maybe some people are calling sp's nippled ammo - idonno? silver bear's clean good ammo. I preffer wolf, cheap and available! I buy it by the case so I have the freedom of going when the breeze takes me. 'bout four trips for me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
prophageus 0 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 $20 for what? 500rd case or 700rd or 1000rd? Well, it has a pick on the AIM site.. it has a nipple on it. *Shrug* I guess that makes it accurate? Where can I find the cheapest wolf? (finding those cases that are green is a bitch though.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siagalova 0 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 yea that nippled stuf is silver bear"match". not bad ammo, I thought it ok - bet you get tighter groups. $20 for 1000-shipping. J&G has ammo for pretty cheap. aim has low prices too. a case of the silver bear wouldn't be bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 get an ULTIMAK rail for your red dot instead... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Siagalova 0 Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 hey Bvamp, where'd you getum and how much? through me a link? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
prophageus 0 Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 What about those replacement covers with built in rails or rings? Those seem sweet. Rings are 20, rails 30. Forgot where i saw them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldskoolfattieg 0 Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 j and g has some good prices on ammo i ordered 2 440 cases of 7.62x54r a while back shipping was 20 bucks came out to like 100 bucks almost even for it all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JWysenski762 0 Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 iv been reading this form for a while but just figured out how to post (my university's email was filtering out confermation) but iv had this idea for a while. why not have some sort of an ammo review post/ page. users could post reluts they got with difrent brands of ammo. this would avoid the "what kind of ammo is best" post every 10 days. i shoot mostly wolf FMJ (because im poor). there is a shop near me that sells the stuf for 2 bucks for a box of 20. 10 cents a round is prety close to what i would pay for bulk with shipping, but i can buy it by the box. i get prety good results from it too. with the FMJ, i can shoot 1 to 1.5 inch groups at 50 yards prety consitantly with iron sights. with hollow points, i get much worse acuracy, up to 3 or 4 inch groups at 50 yards. a friend of mine can shoot HP with almost the accuracy of FMJ through his sk, so maybe my rifel is just picky. however wolf is realy dirty. they use some kind of lacker to seal them and it can make a mess in the reciver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LeadMonkey 0 Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/viewitem.asp?item=23765327 I dont know how legal this stuff is but I would really love to fire some of these rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
prophageus 0 Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 That is freakin wicked ammo.. Too bad it's $36 for only 20 rds. HOLY! Imagine shooting someone with that.. wow.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaShooter 0 Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 something tells me the range master would be a bit pissed about those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
prophageus 0 Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Wtf is a range master? Haha. I shoot at a private range.. or just out in the desert randomly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JWysenski762 0 Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 holy crap! those look awsome! a friend of mine put 3 tracer rounds through a ground hogs head with his AR (poor little bastard was on fire afterwards! well hed didnt suffer, i can tell you that!) but i havnent seen anny cool ammo like that in 7.62X39! i also dont have 40 bucks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
welbo 0 Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 (edited) Several of my buddies got sks's and saiga 7.62x39's for a hunting trip we had a couple of weeks ago. We bought almost 2000 rds to use amongst ourselves. I did a bit of research before I bought the ammo. Here's what I found... J&G Saless 154gr wolf sp 1000rds $90 + shipping from AZ http://catalog.jgsales.com/ Outdoor marksman 154gr wolf sp 1000rds $89+ shipping $31.39=120.39 sportsman's guide 154 gr wolf sp (2)500rds $89.94+13.98 shipping=103.92 aimsurplus 123gr silver bear hp effect 1000rds $89+18 = 107 ammoman.com 154 gr wolf sp 1000rds $119 shipped ammunitionstore.com 154gr wolf sp 1000rds $85+27.51=112.51 124gr sliver bear hp effect 1000rds 79.95+27.51=107.46 cheaperthandirt.com 154gr wolf sp 1000rds 109.94+tax 9.07=119.01 124gr silver bear match hp effect 1000rds 99.50+ tax 8.21=107.71 This is a price for pickup. they charge $3 handling fee and shipping on top of that otherwise... floridagunworks.com not worth mentioning, but they do have barnaul pretty cheap floridaammotraders.com 123gr barnaul sp 1000rds 110+shipping? hunterelite.com 124gr silver bear hp effect 1.99/20 rd box The silver Bear HP effect is the "Nipple effect" ammo. It is supposed to be "Match grade". I've read that it is better than wolf, but most agree "Match Grade" is a bit of an overstatement. The "nipple effect" is an air gap on the end of the bullet that makes it perform like a hollow point, but has increased accuracy because the nipple covers the hole. We ended up buying 1 500 rd box of wolf 154gr soft point and 2-640 rd boxes of wolf 122gr hollow point from sportsman's guide. It was a total of $130 shipped. That is for 1780 rds. We didn't shoot it all up, but had a lot of fun trying. All I can compare is the wolf 154 gr sp and the wolf 122 gr hp. I think I like the 122gr hp better. It seems to have more energy. It should work well on game, as the hollow point is not a true hollow point... It is simply an air gap in the end. In other words, it doesn't make the bullet expand, it makes it tumble inside of a victim, er animal. Both seemed to shoot well out of the Saiga, and SKS for that matter. PS. Shipping prices are to East Texas. Edited October 14, 2004 by welbo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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