Stuart2 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Hi Guys, Would you know how to take off the front sight, so I can decrease the barrel length to 16 What tools would I need? thanks Stu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 (edited) Hi Guys, Would you know how to take off the front sight, so I can decrease the barrel length to 16 What tools would I need? thanks Stu You need a punch to get the pins out and a brass or wood dowel to pound the sight off with a hammer. If you're just going to chop the barrel make sure the OD is the same, and do not cut it to exactly 16 inches--make it 16 1/4 to assure it's legal. It should be recrowned with the proper crowning tool and use cutting oil. You may need to drill/mill a small channel for the FSB pins to be reinserted without the barrel getting in the way. Edited October 8, 2007 by tritium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 (edited) Hi Guys, Would you know how to take off the front sight, so I can decrease the barrel length to 16 What tools would I need? thanks Stu You need a punch to get the pins out and a brass or wood dowel to pound the sight off with a hammer. If you're just going to chop the barrel make sure the OD is the same, and do not cut it to exactly 16 inches--make it 16 1/4 to assure it's legal. It should be recrowned with the proper crowning tool and use cutting oil. You may need to drill/mill a small channel for the FSB pins to be reinserted without the barrel getting in the way. First, your Saiga barrel steps down, the diameter were your FSB is, will be smaller that the rest of the barrel, you can do 2 things, step the barrel down or ream the FSB to fit the bigger diameter of the barrel as you relocate the FSB, if you going to use the original FSB, now the barrel have the notch for the pins of the FSB. If you going to use the original FSB I don't think hammer and wood will be a good idea but each its own, Now on the FSB and GB on some rifles the only thing holding the parts are the pins and the press fit of the parts, but in some rifles the FSB and GB are hold by dimples in each side plus the pins don't go all the way true the parts, I have 2 guns like that brand new that I going to customize for my kids, and in this guns the dimples have to be drill to a certain point plus the pins have to be drill too because they cant be push out, just to press the parts off with a 12 ton press. There you go, any question feel free to ask. Edited October 9, 2007 by vjor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart2 0 Posted October 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Are you saying that all saiga rifles have pins in the front sight? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Are you saying that all saiga rifles have pins in the front sight? thanks Believe so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Are you saying that all saiga rifles have pins in the front sight? thanks Yes 2 pins that go from one side to the other side in must cases just like any other AK rifle, see post above for exception to the case, dont you have a rifle? look on the FSB and GB, you push the pins out and press the part out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart2 0 Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Are you saying that all saiga rifles have pins in the front sight? thanks Yes 2 pins that go from one side to the other side in must cases just like any other AK rifle, see post above for exception to the case, dont you have a rifle? look on the FSB and GB, you push the pins out and press the part out. Yes I do have a saiga rifle 762x39 Have read your comments & yes I do understand now. thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Jacket 329 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Are you saying that all saiga rifles have pins in the front sight? thanks last load I got in , half of them did not have pin's . The gasblock and front sight were secured by spot pressing into dimples drilled into the barrel . Like Molot does with the Veprs . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Are you saying that all saiga rifles have pins in the front sight? thanks last load I got in , half of them did not have pin's . The gasblock and front sight were secured by spot pressing into dimples drilled into the barrel . Like Molot does with the Veprs . That sucks unless you plan on replacing them... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Jacket 329 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Are you saying that all saiga rifles have pins in the front sight? thanks last load I got in , half of them did not have pin's . The gasblock and front sight were secured by spot pressing into dimples drilled into the barrel . Like Molot does with the Veprs . That sucks unless you plan on replacing them... yep . price of a 103 just went up $50.00 because of it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 (edited) The 2 I got just now, the pin dont go all the way true, just like half and yes the dimples are there like red jackets says, damn just more work to do something so simple, and I guess waste the GB and FSB after dealing with the dimples, or unless you want costume made GB and FSB with holes on each side back on the gun, hey more money for those ones LOL. you can say that the holes on the parts are to relieve stresses on the parts or gun. Hey Stuart2 I hope you dont have the new ones with dimples on each side of the GB and FSB, if you got that ones, the way is to drill on the dimples but not all the way, just enough to make them weak and press the part off but is not much meat and the barrel is right there careful what you do. And in my case like half of pins, drill the damn things to all the way true plus the damn dimples. Damn it sucks big camel dick, more work to do something that was so easy and simple. Hey Red jacket, do you think I hear that izhmash buy molot, can be that is cheap for them just to dimple the barrel and since molot was set that way already, we are going to see a lot of new Saigas that way, just speculating since the barrel on my new .223 same diameter of my 7.62x39, cuts for the hand guard retaining plate and dimples on the GB and FSB or is just they made the guns with what ever was on hand at the time it was on the manufacture assembly line. Edited October 10, 2007 by vjor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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