flypenfly 0 Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 I just got my Saiga 223 and I was thinking of getting a trirail mount next to the forearm: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SCP068-4490...html?pcs=SCP068 Would that work if I used this on the Saiga? http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/49797-64126-973.html or http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AKS030-46246-973.html The idea is that I could mount a bipod or laser or other accessories on it in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I just got my Saiga 223 and I was thinking of getting a trirail mount next to the forearm: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SCP068-4490...html?pcs=SCP068 Would that work if I used this on the Saiga? http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/49797-64126-973.html or http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AKS030-46246-973.html The idea is that I could mount a bipod or laser or other accessories on it in the future. Yes that should still work. You do know Tapco sells a kit for adding rails to the Galil HG right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flypenfly 0 Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 No I didn't but I looked it up, is this it? http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?Id=43f6...fb-74b210e8625d Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckmeister 11 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 No I didn't but I looked it up, is this it? http://www.tapco.com/proddesc.aspx?Id=43f6...fb-74b210e8625d I bought the Tapco Galil-ish HG referenced above. It will work with one of Dinzag's HG retainers. I was disappointed with Tapco's product. It requires some fitting (filing). Mine sits unmolested in the parts box. It is bulkier than the real deal, but not as substantial and reportedly melts or deforms with barrel heat. I read that an original Galil AR HG will fit a Saiga with Dinzag's retainer; otherwise a Galil rear HG retainer would be required. The synthetic HG's are plentiful, but the wooden ones are scarce and expensive. I also have the tri-rail you referenced. I may have to grab it out of my parts box to see if it would work with a Saiga 223. buckmeister Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flypenfly 0 Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ok then, what do you guys suggest is the best way to get some rails on the HG? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckmeister 11 Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ok then, what do you guys suggest is the best way to get some rails on the HG? If you go with the Tapco Galil-style HG (or an original Galil HG) the Tri-rail mount will work. If you wanted a less obtrusive mount and needed only two attachment points, the Tri-rail's bottom Pic rail can be removed. If you need only one, adding 4 nuts, the barrel strap and single Pic rail can be used (using a larger socket head screw and threading the Pic rail could be an option, though I haven't tried it yet) . The Tapco HG with mounted rails seems a bit crowded. The two humps under their version already make it a tight fit... not much real estate for the hand. Form follows function, so go with what works for you. It was hard for me to envision some of the possible add-on combinations, hence my overstocked parts box. buckmeister Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flypenfly 0 Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well all I'm really looking to do is to add a stable bipod that's hopefully not mounted on the barrel. I was hoping the Galil style HG would be perfect but apparently it melts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckmeister 11 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Well all I'm really looking to do is to add a stable bipod that's hopefully not mounted on the barrel. I was hoping the Galil style HG would be perfect but apparently it melts? An ARM handguard would better serve you. It is recessed for a bipod. They are readily available. I got a beat-up one I am refinishing. Any particular reason(s) you do not want a barrel mounted bipod? Even true Galils have them mounted there (via the gasblock/front sight)? Aluminum heat shields (easily fabricated) might help on the Tapco HG's. Others may have better luck with Tapco. It just paled by comparison with the "real McCoy". buckmeister Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flypenfly 0 Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) Link to an ARM handguard? I heard the barrelmounted bipods aren't stable and get loose while also affecting the harmonics of the barrel. But if there is a well regarded high quality one around $100, I'd buy it. Edited February 7, 2008 by flypenfly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckmeister 11 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Link to an ARM handguard? Link I heard the barrelmounted bipods aren't stable and get loose while also affecting the harmonics of the barrel. But if there is a well regarded high quality one around $100, I'd buy it. Here are some non-Galil examples: buckmeister Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flypenfly 0 Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) Thanks for all the help so far. I guess I was more asking on what's a decent package out there I can buy that'll work out of the box. A link would be appreciated. Edited February 7, 2008 by flypenfly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckmeister 11 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Thanks for all the help so far. I guess I was more asking on what's a decent package out there I can buy that'll work out of the box. A link would be appreciated. A Harris bipod will attach to the QD sling stud on the factory HG. Harris Bipods buckmeister One last of my favorite: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flypenfly 0 Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 That one looks crazy. Its like some sort of Borg invasion of a rifle. Do I need any additional hardware besides just the bipod? No adapters or anything? So I just need to order this? http://www.harrisbipods.com/HBL.html My Saiga 223 is completely stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckmeister 11 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 That one looks crazy. Its like some sort of Borg invasion of a rifle. Do I need any additional hardware besides just the bipod? No adapters or anything? So I just need to order this? http://www.harrisbipods.com/HBL.html My Saiga 223 is completely stock. From their website: "Harris Bipods clamp to any quick detachable sling swivel stud." So, just the bipod is needed. Check online for sales, etc. These are the most popular brand. buckmeister Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flypenfly 0 Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Ok, I thought I remember reading that people were having problems getting it to attach to the stock swivel mount on the Saiga. I'll do a search. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flypenfly 0 Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Ok looks like I just need to get a QD stud to fill in the swivel hole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flypenfly 0 Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Ok I think this might do the trick and seems all included http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/BIPOD102-41833-724.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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