headshot harry 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 very interesting...I have not seen one but for $16.99usd, worth looking at.. If anyone has bought one or has seen one let me know what you think. regards, Harry ati Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesiumsponge 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) Thats the shotforce unit. I believe that image is photoshopped. There are other existing photos of this item where the slots are not going all the way through. There is also word that the unit is plastic. There are older threads that bring this up if you wish to take a look. Edited November 11, 2004 by Cesiumsponge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jtf979 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 FROM ATI WEBSITE: ----- Step # 1 Remove bead sight. Slide the Muzzle Mount over the end of the barrel until both ends are flush. CAUTION: No part of the Muzzle Mount should stick out past the end of the barrel. To do so may result in injury to the shooter or bystanders and cause the Muzzle Mount to be damaged while firing. Step # 2 Place nut on the side of the Muzzle Mount with the relief cut. Slide the screw through the clamp. Tighten securely. Step # 3 Smaller gauge shotguns may need slight modification to the Muzzle Mount to ensure a tight fit. If the insides of the clamp are touching, you will need to remove a small amount of material from this area. Step # 4 The Muzzle Mount must be fitted tightly to withstand the forces of recoil. Periodically check to make sure that the mount has not moved forward on the muzzle after shooting, which could result in damage to the Muzzle Mount or injury to the shooter or bystanders. -------- This hider is just for show. It might be cool but it is just something that you keep from going beyond the end of the muzzle so that you don't get hurt. It would make your barrel appear even shorter. That might be cool looking. It would be worth a try since it is so cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymceldoo 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Heres a closeup shot of the one I made. Its made out of 4140 preheat treat and is coated with moly resin. Its about 2.125 long and attatches using two 8-32 set screws. I havnt had a chance to try it out yet but will saturday. This is just a test peice. My next one will be nicer. I had some trouble machinining the slots in and think I know a better way. Im going to increase the slot size next time around and change the profile a little. It is based off of an A2 AR15 flashhider and should function. Id like to eventually shorten my barrel and permanently attatch it to bring it to the 18". Ive heard to do so you would have to completely remove the barrel from the receiver since you would be cutting it under 16" and then permanently attatch the FH and then re-assemble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAC_TEK 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Nice ! When are you going to start selling them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K1196A 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 that's a nice looking project! you should make a threaded one that will screw onto the choke threads! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cpileri 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I second the notion! If you decide to sell a few, please contact me as well! c- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle7 0 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 I second the notion! If you decide to sell a few, please contact me as well!c- Yep you will deffinatly make some $$ if you start making them. FREE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymceldoo 0 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 that's a nice looking project! you should make a threaded one that will screw onto the choke threads! The problem with that is I dont have access to a saiga with a poly choke. Id have to have thread size and pitch as well as other dimensions to pull it off. Not only that but it would be more time consuming to make which would be more expensive. I need to test it out and make sure I have enough clearence at the opening and that the setscrews are a sound way to attatch it. Once I do this I will make some more with a better design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot harry 0 Posted November 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 russian products. This Link has a nice front sight/flash/comp all in one. Sadly it is only for the 20ga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardcorps1775 1 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 johnny, you have the closed bottom, which is great, but is one of the slots at the top? this might be a problem with low light shooting if gasses/flash are directed up into the line of sight. it looks great, by the way! hat's off to your craftsmanship! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot harry 0 Posted November 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 the link i posted has a very good design for a comp/flash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesiumsponge 0 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 The link you provided with the flash hider/raised sight has been frequented here several times. They have a 12-ga version and we're supposed to have a batch shipped here but ETA seems to be unknown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot harry 0 Posted November 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Who are they shipping them to...??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevinadv 0 Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 The Prodiz sight you are talking about does not have them in stock. They say they are not sure when they will get more. Oleg at rusmilitary.com in England contacted both IZH. and Prodiz to obtain an elevated front sight with flare supp. He was told by the factory that this was a special order item for a supplier of milt. and law enforcment in russia. Apparently prodiz got hold of some of these and were selling them at one time!!!! I have family in Moscow and other cities in Russia trying to get this item for me and they havn't seen one yet. I have a large order in with evryone if... they find them. Great News though!!!!!!!!! Elevated front sights are "now" in stock at rusmilitary.com !!!!!!!!!!! 8rd. mags ect.... I'm currently waiting for saiga-20 wood furn. for my field gun that my friends in russia are sending over. By the way 8 rd. mags are $46.00 in Russia. With there being only one manf. , on the other side of the world, in a country like Russia. The prices we are paying are not that bad. Remember they don't make these in the hundred thousands! The milt. does't order them really. This is a specialty item for them We get what they want to make at whatever price we can! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot harry 0 Posted November 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Thanks for the info...it is a great help. Hopefully here in the U.S. the market will grow now that the BAN has faded away. I think KREBS can almost taste the new market.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Kevinadv-- Great news . How pricey is the S-12 wood? I have seen a picture of a great looking russian wood set. I probably would be interested in 2 sets if they are reasonable! G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevinadv 0 Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Saiga-12 wood will cost me $100.00 plus shipping!! Not cheap really. My father-in-law in Russia is buying it and shipping it to me. This is the price he pays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 kevinadv- If that is the same stock set that I'v seen on the russian website-with the checkering and hardwood,then$100.00 is a very good price! G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymceldoo 0 Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Well I was able to test mine out this weekend. Fired about 20 shells of 2 3/4 7shot and no problems. No shot came into contact with the ID of the FH and it did not loosen after shooting. I only gave about .0005 of an inch clearence between the barrel and ID of the FH so that it would fit nice and snug. The set screws seemed to bottom out nicely and I could not feel any barrel deformation when I snugged down on them. ID like to make another one this time with feedback from you guys. Id like to increase the slot width and add more angle to its chamfer. I'll leave the 12 o'clock slot out this time as hardcorps1775 recommended. I'll also try to improve the overall look of it. better images: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymceldoo 0 Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 (edited) wrong post Edited November 17, 2004 by johnnymceldoo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cpileri 0 Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Johnnymceldoo, I am sure you are getting tired of hearing (reading) this, but you have a buyer here if you ever make a few to sell. C- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymceldoo 0 Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Johnnymceldoo,I am sure you are getting tired of hearing (reading) this, but you have a buyer here if you ever make a few to sell. C- See other thread or e-mail me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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