Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I have a question for those who have bought and used the new ProMags that are labled as "Saiga Mags". Are they actually designed to feed a Saiga with no feedramp installed? I'm planning on calling them tomorrow to ask them personally. I haven't seen the Surefire mags for the x39 but I have heard that they already have a bullet guide built in. Is that true? I do have a Surefire 25 rd mag for my .308 and it feeds fine, but the .308 doesn't need a bullet guide. I bought a new ProMag the other day and I really like it. It looks just like a Bulgarian waffle mag and fits great. I tried it out in my new dimpled x39 and it fed perfectly until the very last round that dove into the breech face. This mag was one of those labled "Saiga" so it makes me wonder...are they, or are they not designed to work without a bullet guide, or are they just normal AK mags? Holding the two side by side (one steel AK mag) it looks to be like normal with no built up area for the bullet ramp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chupacabrah 0 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 i have a promag waffle style. it does not have any feed lip like the stock saiga mag. i havent fired from it, but i released the bolt and it chambered a round. I don't know if it was a fluke, I cant see trusting it at this point. mine is also not marked "saiga" though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Hmmm well mine is only marked Saiga on the package it came in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbauch357 0 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Not to side track you if you're really stuck no the Pro Mags, but the Master Molder mags work flawlessly with no bullet guide and only a light bit of filing required on the mag catch - and they are only $12 a piece for the 30rd magazines... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terrace_mountain 0 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Surefire Saiga specific mags work just fine. The lip is higher than a standard AKM magazine to compensate for the lack of bullet guide in a Saiga. I have several in both 10 and 30 round capacities and have not had a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
photohause 0 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 (edited) Post #46 Member * Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 29-February 08 From: Oregon Coast Member No.: 10,068 Ok I just got a bunch of new Master Molder mags (10 :-) and I'm having a problem that I can't seem to correct. I was testing them in a 20" 7.62x39 with a flat trunnion and no bullet guide. They seemed to work fine when I cycle the rounds by hand but when I had the mags out on the range to test them out I put 3rnds in each test mag, and what I found was about 80% of the time I would fire the first round and then it would eject the spent casing plus a unused round resulting in no round in the chamber+one round left in the magazine. I lowered the front lip on one of the mags to try to match it to the height of the factory mag and kept getting the same result, and continually lowered the front lip until it was noticeably less high than the factory mags, same symptom no change throughout. So at this point I started to get frustrated and thought maybe these mags are just fckd, so I pulled out my converted 16" (round trunnion w/dinzag's bullet guide) and them fired a series of 3rnds per mags in the mag with the lowered lip and the mags without, zero problems every round fed and fired. I modified the catches on each mag to fit tightly into the weapon not the weapon to fit the mags. Has anyone had these same kind of issues? Or have any idea how to resolve them? Only thing I can think of is install a bullet guide and see if that helps... Edited April 30, 2008 by photohause Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danadog 0 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I bought 2 pro mags, they are not saiga and I do have bullet guide. Every time I racked a round in it would smash into the side of the breach. Did a little dremmeling on the mag and ground down the bullet guide and everything cycles ok....just need to get some range time to really see if it worksPost #46 Member * Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 29-February 08 From: Oregon Coast Member No.: 10,068 Ok I just got a bunch of new Master Molder mags (10 :-) and I'm having a problem that I can't seem to correct. I was testing them in a 20" 7.62x39 with a flat trunnion and no bullet guide. They seemed to work fine when I cycle the rounds by hand but when I had the mags out on the range to test them out I put 3rnds in each test mag, and what I found was about 80% of the time I would fire the first round and then it would eject the spent casing plus a unused round resulting in no round in the chamber+one round left in the magazine. I lowered the front lip on one of the mags to try to match it to the height of the factory mag and kept getting the same result, and continually lowered the front lip until it was noticeably less high than the factory mags, same symptom no change throughout. So at this point I started to get frustrated and thought maybe these mags are just fckd, so I pulled out my converted 16" (round trunnion w/dinzag's bullet guide) and them fired a series of 3rnds per mags in the mag with the lowered lip and the mags without, zero problems every round fed and fired. I modified the catches on each mag to fit tightly into the weapon not the weapon to fit the mags. Has anyone had these same kind of issues? Or have any idea how to resolve them? Only thing I can think of is install a bullet guide and see if that helps... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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