Stuart2 0 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Hi guys I would like to know if you use choke tubes for defence or 3 gun shoot? Are you guys saying that you would not use choke tubes. Stu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McUZI 1 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Pattern your gun and see how it shoots. On my favorite 3-Gun scattergun, I use a modified choke, just because it seems to pattern right with my point-shooting technique. Full tends to be a little less forgiving and IC can sometimes scatter a little too much to get the payload on target to knock down the heavier steel poppers past 15y. There are variable chokes out there that allow you to go from open cylinder bore to Extra Full with a few cranks. And then there is the fantastic "Patternmaster" system that throws the cleanest patterns i've ever seen, including Vang'ed barrels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) Stick with full choke you will be fine. Although there are times when I wish I had a modified choke. One match I know of will DQ you for changing chokes during a match. I agree with mcUzi patern you gun so you know where your pattern is going. Edited January 21, 2005 by topmaul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart2 0 Posted January 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Hi McUZI about this patern master choke tube. Do they make one for the saiga 12ga? http://www.patternmaster.com/chokes.html thanks Stu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 you could have a gunsmith thread your barrel for what ever domestic choke tubes you want. I might have it done to mine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McUZI 1 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 As topmaul said- you can have your Saiga threaded for whatever choke tubes you'd like. I personally prefer Rem Chokes because I know they work, they're inexpensive and they offer a broad range of choking patterns. That, plus by keeping all my shotguns threaded for one choke system, I only have to buy one choke and can use it on all of the guns. I do keep a spare patternmaster, tho. Great system. Patterns much cleaner than any "full" choke i've ever shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart2 0 Posted January 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 (edited) As topmaul said- you can have your Saiga threaded for whatever choke tubes you'd like./////////// Are we talking about external thread? or internal? or can a gun smith do both? thanks Stu Edited January 22, 2005 by Stuart2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McUZI 1 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Are we talking about external thread? or internal? or can a gun smith do both? thanks Stu Gunsmith is a broad term. The last place I lived, the town gunsmith was an older man who could refinish a wood stock, shorten a barrel or install parts but everything else was out of his league. Other towns have gunsmiths with full machining facilities that can pretty much do whatever you want- but those guys are rare, and those who have such a gunsmith at their disposal are fortunate. Most small gunsmiths farm out work and just tack on a premium for their time, especially in the way of refinishing, threading for chokes or other jobs that require high priced specialty gear or a higher degree of skill. With the internet at your disposal, you should have no problem finding a smith who can thread your Saiga for chokes. Yes, the threads are internal. Most gunsmiths capable of threading for chokes either refuse to thread a chromed barrel, or charge a premium for it, so keep this in mind. Either way, it's usually no more than a hundred bucks or so, and once it's done, you have really broadened the capabilities of your shotgun, transforming it into a slinger of lead into a versatile machine capable of more controlled accuracy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Its funny that I see everyone commenting on choke tubes for 3 gun shoots or defense.... Doesnt *ANYONE* out there HUNT with a saiga 12/20/.410???? and worry about what the pattern needs to be for certain hunting situations??? Must be just me, I reckon... heeyuh..heeyuh...( hmm... theres no redneck smiley...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart2 0 Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 (edited) Hi Guys In relation to the 3 gun shoot, I would not use any low recoil rounds, as there is not enough power to cycle the action!!!!!!!!!!...... example Edited January 23, 2005 by Stuart2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 (edited) Lets talk about the competitions I guess it depends on the course of fire. For example are you shooting poppers or clays or maybe a Texas star. Me I use my ful choke because it gives me the punch I need to knock over the targets while using cheap walmart ammo. It does the job for me but I have to shoot each target indevedualy while some people like Mickporno can hit two or three with a wide pattern. By the same token I have seen poeple with short barrel and little of no choke have difficulties knocking the paddles off the Texas Star. The place I was at last weekend had steel targets made of one inch steel plate and they two were difficult to deal with even with the full choke I mean I needed a direct hit. Some places will have you use slugs. The answer to your question is it depends on the course of fire most people will put COF on thier website along with the round count. Carry more ammo than you think your going to need. I don't use them because I have a fixed full choke and would have to have choke tube threads installed and have not as of yet done that. If your going to be a serious competitor you will need interchangable choke tubes. If your like me and just having fun and meeting friends well no you can get away with not having tubes. http://bcidpa.kicks-ass.net/docs/jan2005/Stage%202.pdf http://bcidpa.kicks-ass.net check out the above links to have an understanding of what will be needed Edited January 23, 2005 by topmaul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
32ndgeorgia 0 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Anyone here use a "poly choke" type device on a Saiga 12? What were the results. It looks like a good solution for many shooting variations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart2 0 Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 if your going to be a serious competitor??????????? I just do the 3 gun shoot because it's fun. Not in anyway serious. Thanks for the printing of the different targets used for 3 gun shoot. I have printed it out. Stu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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