Boss Hogg 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I recently had my rifle converted to a pistol grip, and I put 5 rounds down range before the hammer pin came loose with a live round in the chamber. I've never heard of this happening with an AK. Is this something that should be easily fixed? I will say that the first 5 rounds show very nice accuracy and I should never have any extraction issues with the 20' that the casings were being launched. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mstranglr 9 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Sounds like the person who did the conversion did not put in, or improperly installed the pin retaining wire (AKA, "shepherds crook"). I would just order an AK pin retaining plate and solve the issue for good. The pin retainer plate takes a few seconds to install and is far superior to the wire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JBski 6 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Re-align everything and then make sure that the shepherd's crook or shepherd's crook replacement is in the groove of the hammer pin. I use the shepherd's crook replacement. To check to see if it's in the hammer pin grove I try to push the pin out with the piece installed, if it doesn't move, it's in the grove, and should not walk out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 i would get at least some of your money back.. there is NO excuse for that... or at least have them buy you the AK retaining plate for your troubles... its far better than any of the other ways to hold those pins in.. and its very cheap.. like $12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boss Hogg 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Thanks all. I'll see what I can do about some form of compensation. This wasn't a fast turnaround time and wasn't exactly cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Thanks all. I'll see what I can do about some form of compensation. This wasn't a fast turnaround time and wasn't exactly cheap. for the sake of sparing anyone else the hassle of dealing with whoever did that to you.. you might want to go ahead and name the shop just so others can stay away.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kymasabe 1 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I've done multiple builds and I can never get the wires in right, I don't like them and I don't trust them. I always use the retaining plate, is far superior and very easy to install. Both Dinzag and DPH Arms have them in stock. They're an excellent investment and I highly recommend one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Thanks all. I'll see what I can do about some form of compensation. This wasn't a fast turnaround time and wasn't exactly cheap. for the sake of sparing anyone else the hassle of dealing with whoever did that to you.. you might want to go ahead and name the shop just so others can stay away.. Yeah, good point. Installing the shepherd's crook ain't cake, but it's not that difficult either.. and the very least whoever converted it should have done was cycle the triggergroup a few times, which would have brought the problem to light. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 That's why I use E clips instead! I know they are on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix Maximus 1 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 That's why I use E clips instead! I know they are on. couldn't get the e clips on the thing.... just seemed WAY too small, no idea how to use them.... retaining plate FTW!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redsoldier 7 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Red Star Arms Fire Control Group Retention Plate; The ONLY way to fly! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Thanks all. I'll see what I can do about some form of compensation. This wasn't a fast turnaround time and wasn't exactly cheap. for the sake of sparing anyone else the hassle of dealing with whoever did that to you.. you might want to go ahead and name the shop just so others can stay away.. Yeah, good point. Installing the shepherd's crook ain't cake, but it's not that difficult either.. and the very least whoever converted it should have done was cycle the triggergroup a few times, which would have brought the problem to light. its an acceptable mistake on your OWN build.. not acceptable when you pay someone.. imo.. lol Now with that said anything COULD happen.. but i KNOW that on the rifles ive converted.. they are cycled pretty aggressively to be as sure as can be that this will not happen.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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