rkmojo 0 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I just got my Saiga 12 back from my gunsmith. First of all I can't believe how much he had to modify the "Surefire" mags to fit into the "Surefire" magazine well. Geez! On top of all that the mags don't insert as easily and as straight as the video shows. They don't just "drop" out. Maybe they mags haven't been modified enough? Wouldn't you think that for that kind of money the modifications would work without removing the ribs, tapering the top and removing the front lug and straightening the front wall? And removing the lug screw? Perhaps I bought the wrong modification? Needless to say I am disappointed. Maybe AGPs are better? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I just got my Saiga 12 back from my gunsmith. First of all I can't believe how much he had to modify the "Surefire" mags to fit into the "Surefire" magazine well. Geez! On top of all that the mags don't insert as easily and as straight as the video shows. They don't just "drop" out. Maybe they mags haven't been modified enough? Wouldn't you think that for that kind of money the modifications would work without removing the ribs, tapering the top and removing the front lug and straightening the front wall? And removing the lug screw? Perhaps I bought the wrong modification? Needless to say I am disappointed. Maybe AGPs are better? Sounds like your gunsmith did not modify the mags correctly. You could always contact the manufacture or myself for help if you are having a problem instead of this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billyjoebob 10 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I just got my Saiga 12 back from my gunsmith. First of all I can't believe how much he had to modify the "Surefire" mags to fit into the "Surefire" magazine well. Geez! On top of all that the mags don't insert as easily and as straight as the video shows. They don't just "drop" out. Maybe they mags haven't been modified enough? Wouldn't you think that for that kind of money the modifications would work without removing the ribs, tapering the top and removing the front lug and straightening the front wall? And removing the lug screw? Perhaps I bought the wrong modification? Needless to say I am disappointed. Maybe AGPs are better? Sounds like your gunsmith did not modify the mags correctly. You could always contact the manufacture or myself for help if you are having a problem instead of this. Greg- Can you explain what mods are needed? I've been looking at the JT magwell, but I can't find any documentation on what must be done to the mags... BJB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 You must remove the front lip and the top side ribs so the top section of the magazine is smooth to allow for straight in insertion. Ususally takes 30 seconds on a belt sander or a few minutes with a dremel tool. It is not hard. Complete instructions with a picture are included. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Hartley 526 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 With any custom modification to a firearm, always give the gunsmith who did the work a chance to fix any problems before you make a public statement. Its only fair. I have several custom guns, pistols, rifle and shotgun and not every one was perfect at first. A true gunsmith wants to make it perfect, give him the chance. If he can't or won't then blast away in the forums. Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lframke 1 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 If the magazine is modified the way the directions and pictures describe there should be no problem. Of course if its done WRONG it won't work right. I have not read or heard of ANYBODY having a problem with the Mag Well when installed properly. It helps to grind the lower rings just inside the mag insert area of the receiver. This makes mag entry a bit easier. It would have nothing to do with ejecting the mag. If your Gunsmith removed too much material from the mag it can usually be fixed by re-building the area with epoxy or JB Weld. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rkmojo 0 Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 As far as I can tell, my Gunsmith who is very competent,(built 3 custom rifles and several pistols for me) has done what the instructions have stated. My gripe is why aren't there better made mags on the market that you don't have to sand down, taper etc, to make them work. I thought this was a "combat", "Personal Protection Weapon"? It's supposed to work every time, smoothly???? CSS, others thanks for your input I will check the mods and see if I can get the mags to work. I'll keep y'all informed. Rusty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usmc_308 0 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Yeah, I agree I don't know what your gunsmith done but I've never had that much trouble. Agp mags are in my opinion the best mags you can get for the saiga 12. I only use Surefire mags in rifles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rd99fxdl 17 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Surefire makes magwells now? I haven't heard of them yet but I would bet if they made them for their own mags they would fit right. Or is it a different aftermarket magwell? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lframke 1 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Your best route is to contact Jack Travers by phone. Jack is fantastic to deal with. He WILL solve your problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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