Polak 10 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I finished the conversion, but I can't put the piston (on the bolt) back into the gas tube. The bolt goes about half way, and won't go farther. Is the gas tube supposed to line up by itself, or do you have to move it some to get it in the right place? I put the spacer or whatever you want to call it from the Saiga gas tube onto the AK gas tube. Maybe it's not the gas tube, but something else that's preventing the piston from going in. Any advice is appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 10 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Does the safety or hammer need to be in a specific position (ex. S or F or cocked or decocked) to reassemble? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hammer needs to be cocked safety off and push the carrier down firmly then slide forward on the rails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 10 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) OK, I got it on, but it seems to stick through half of the action. Meaning, I try to charge the handle and it sticks about half way back. Also, I can't get the gas tube lever down. Edited March 30, 2010 by Polak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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David Mark 2,452 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Sounds like your gas tube may not be seated properly. There should be a noticeable CLICK when you have it seated, before you lock it down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 10 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Sounds like your gas tube may not be seated properly. There should be a noticeable CLICK when you have it seated, before you lock it down. Seems to be all the way down, but I can't get the lever to go down. Also, I put on the spring or whatever you want to call it from the Saiga gas tube onto the AK tube. Could that be the problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Mark 2,452 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Sounds like your gas tube may not be seated properly. There should be a noticeable CLICK when you have it seated, before you lock it down. Seems to be all the way down, but I can't get the lever to go down. Also, I put on the spring or whatever you want to call it from the Saiga gas tube onto the AK tube. Could that be the problem? No. that should not create any problem. Disassemble the rifle ( Remove bolt carrier ) and reseat the tube until you hear a click. Lock it down before re installing the bolt carrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 10 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Seems it wasn't the gas tube. When the bolt goes back, it rubs on the hammer. What can it be? The hammer doesn't seem to hold on the disconnector. Edited March 30, 2010 by Polak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Is this an OEM (stock) gas tube? Are you sure it fits? The gas tube might need fitting. Mine took quite a bit of fitting and filing! The gas tube must go all the way down and the latch needs to close. If not you have a clearance problem and need to fit it. One thing to remember, DO NOT FORCE the Latch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 10 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) Is this an OEM (stock) gas tube? Are you sure it fits? The gas tube might need fitting. Mine took quite a bit of fitting and filing! The gas tube must go all the way down and the latch needs to close. If not you have a clearance problem and need to fit it. One thing to remember, DO NOT FORCE the Latch! The gas tube is not the problem. I took it off and found out it's the bolt rubbing on the hammer. I may have to do some fitting on the tube though because it is very tight. Edited March 31, 2010 by Polak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ae13291 3 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 im guessing you got the tube from CSS like i did (the vented ones are harder to come by now a days) i had to do some grinding on mine so it fits, my latch also did not close, i had to grind the top part of the tube so the latch closes securely. also there is no need to move that spacer thing from the stock gas tube to the new one, if you compare the new gas tube is slightly longer so that eliminates the need for that spring thing from the stock one. mine is on there rock tight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 10 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 im guessing you got the tube from CSS like i did (the vented ones are harder to come by now a days) i had to do some grinding on mine so it fits, my latch also did not close, i had to grind the top part of the tube so the latch closes securely. also there is no need to move that spacer thing from the stock gas tube to the new one, if you compare the new gas tube is slightly longer so that eliminates the need for that spring thing from the stock one. mine is on there rock tight Yes. I got the vented one from CSS. I may have to do some fitting too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Superhawk138 202 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 The hammer catches the disconnecter when the carrier is traveling rearward and the trigger is still pulled. When you take your finger off the trigger to reset the hammer catches the sear in your picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 10 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 The hammer catches the disconnecter when the carrier is traveling rearward and the trigger is still pulled. When you take your finger off the trigger to reset the hammer catches the sear in your picture. Thanks. That cleared it up for me. So I guess it's fine the way it is. Now the gas tube needs some fitting, because the piston rubs somewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Late jumping back in, but Blacktop is dead on with what he says about fitting non-Saiga gas tube. That's exactly what I had to do as well. Both, file carefully to fit and file carefully to ensure the angle at the upper part allowed the latch to close without undue stress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ae13291 3 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 do it carefully, like mentioned above dont over do it. the hardest part on mine was getting the gas tube to fit into the gun in the normal position. i had to do grinding all around the face just so it can go all the way down. doing the latch was the easy part. remove the gas tube from the gun and try inserting the bolt and carrier to see what is interfering. when i took the gun apart the first time it took a while till i knew how to get the carrier on the rails correctly so it can slide forward, if the carrier is misaligned the first thing that hits is the piston and it will not let it move any further. watch some videos on youtube to make sure your doing it right. let us know what happens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 10 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) The problem was the star part of the tube. The piston was rubbing on it. After some persuasion, it works No more sticking. As for the fitting. It takes some work to get it closed. I still have to work on the closing latch because it only went half way down after some grinding. Anyway. Here she is with one of my 15 rounders in it Edited March 31, 2010 by Polak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ae13291 3 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 ^^^ do some more grinding on the face of the tube so the latch can close Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 is that a Klassy LHG retainer I see? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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