Thumbhole stock

[john1761 0]

Does anyone know if a thumbhole stock is considered a pistol grip in NY? Also, I want to put a pistol grip and collapsible stock on a pump action shotgun. Is this legal in NY? Thanks.

[nattyiceking 33]

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Does anyone know if a thumbhole stock is considered a pistol grip in NY? Also, I want to put a pistol grip and collapsible stock on a pump action shotgun. Is this legal in NY? Thanks.

Pump action shotguns do not fall under the NYS assault weapons ban to begin with. So your pump gun can have a bayonette, folding/collapsable stock, and pistol grip without any issues whatsoever.

 

Thumbhole stocks are not considered pistol grips by any legal definition except in 922r a federal law, not a state one. 922r states that a thumbhole stock is accualy 2 parts a buttstock, and a pistol grip and therefor counts as 2 parts toward total part count on a weapon.

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Does anyone know if a thumbhole stock is considered a pistol grip in NY? Also, I want to put a pistol grip and collapsible stock on a pump action shotgun. Is this legal in NY? Thanks.

Pump action shotguns do not fall under the NYS assault weapons ban to begin with. So your pump gun can have a bayonette, folding/collapsable stock, and pistol grip without any issues whatsoever.

 

Thumbhole stocks are not considered pistol grips by any legal definition except in 922r a federal law, not a state one. 922r states that a thumbhole stock is accualy 2 parts a buttstock, and a pistol grip and therefor counts as 2 parts toward total part count on a weapon.

You should stickie this somewhere. Bless your patience.

[john1761 0]

Thanks, So I can add the thumbhole stock to my Saiga 12 no problem. How about a flash hider? Thanks John.

[nattyiceking 33]

Thanks, So I can add the thumbhole stock to my Saiga 12 no problem. How about a flash hider? Thanks John.

 

Click the link http://tinyurl.com/y9x7v4y

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Thanks, So I can add the thumbhole stock to my Saiga 12 no problem. How about a flash hider? Thanks John.

Flash hiders are evil features on rifles, but not listed for semi auto shotguns in NYS. Same as bayonettes.

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You should stickie this somewhere. Bless your patience.

It took me a while to figure out all the laws myself. If you go back far enough you'll see some of my first posts are similar to this one.

 

I highly recomend everyone read the laws themselves and learn them so they can explain them to others and when questioned by someone else who isn't in the know, they don't wind up sounding like this...

Well this guy on the internet told me...

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If anyone else wants to bone up on some NY law here you go...

 

http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article265.htm

 

and heres the meat of the thing...

22. "Assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an

ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the

following characteristics:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of

the weapon;

(iii) a bayonet mount;

(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a

flash suppressor;

(v) a grenade launcher; or

( a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following

characteristics:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of

the weapon;

(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds;

(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or

© a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable

magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics:

(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the

pistol grip;

(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash

suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;

(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely

encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm

with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

(iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is

unloaded;

(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm;

or

(d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such

weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known

as:

(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all

models);

(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;

(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);

(iv) Colt AR-15;

(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;

(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;

(vii) Steyr AUG;

(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and

(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street

Sweeper and Striker 12;

(e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle,

shotgun or pistol that (A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or

slide action; ( has been rendered permanently inoperable; or © is an

antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16);

(ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine

that holds more than five rounds of ammunition;

(iii) a semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds

of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine;

(iv) a rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate thereof,

specified in Appendix A to section 922 of 18 U.S.C. as such weapon was

manufactured on October first, nineteen hundred ninety-three. The mere

fact that a weapon is not listed in Appendix A shall not be construed to

mean that such weapon is an assault weapon; or

(v) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic

pistol or any of the weapons defined in paragraph (d) of this

subdivision lawfully possessed prior to September fourteenth, nineteen

hundred ninety-four.

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I actually have the PDF of the NY laws saved in a file so I can refer to it when needed. It is important. I had to learn them for my job 21 years ago.

 

I know the NRA is not a business member here so I'll take a chance of COC violation and post this anyway... http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/

 

From that page any States gun laws can be accessed. That's a good thing.

[john1761 0]

Thanks again for everyone's help.