NickWhite 7 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 There is NO recoil on these things! But I'm having the same problem as my S308 post conversion, the trigger doesn't reset. Why isn't it re setting?! Also, I think I want some kid of CQB scope. Sorta like a red dot, but with crosshairs. My buddy had one on his AR and it looked like an ACOG. An it was perfect but I forgot to ask what it was. Im lookin for it to be cheapish and hold a zero pretty good. Any ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Recoil is even less with a proper muzzle brake; practically like a .22 mag. Your trigger problems are probably due to not installing the disconnector or disconnector spring when installing the Tapco FCG - I assume you converted it since you were asking conversion questions in the past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickWhite 7 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I installed the spring and the disconnector. And twards the end it would reset for 5-6 shots then not reset. That was with fiocci it wouldn't at all with tula Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Which FCG are you using? Are you using all-matching FCG parts? Some people have trouble using original Saiga hammer with other FCGs, for example. Mine works fine, but the possibility exists that the FCG may not operate correctly if using non-matching parts, up to and including the disconnector not catching the hammer because the hammer is not being pushed down far enough, for example. If not using a matching FCG, this would be the first thing to change - install all matching parts. Also I know that some people have had trouble with the disconnector not catching the hammer due to the hammer hitting the nut used to secure one of the popular bolt-on trigger guards. This would limit the hammer's travel and cause the hammer to bottom out on the face of this nut before it has the chance to catch the disconnector. You can manipulate the hammer by hand and see if this is happening. If it is, you'll have to file down the nut/bolt. Edited January 16, 2012 by mancat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickWhite 7 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 That's a good point. I'm using all matching tapco modified G2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwillow 5 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Most likely a trigger guard screw too high and fouling the action. But also check that the hammer spring is sitting solidly on the trigger legs. Sometimes it slips to the side or gets up on the BHO (if you have one). You can bend the spring more inboard for a more positive hold. Still I think it's a high TG screw.... not that I have any personal experience with it.... later rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickWhite 7 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm pushing down the hammer and I can't tell for sure but I don't think it is hitting the TG screw. But I can't see it. The springs seem to be holding good, I don't know if there is a way of testing it without firing but the trigger seems to be pretty quick dry firing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwillow 5 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 First of all... I think I have an answer to your red dot question: The one that Looks like an acog but is a red dot w/crosshairs is a bushnell. Sightmark makes one that is similar (probably in the same factory in china). Anyway... back to the reset issue: You can take everything out but the hammer and see if there is any interference with a screw,net, etc. I reused mySaiga stock triggerguard and the screw I used was long enough to foul the reset. Used a shorter screw and thinner nut just to be sure. All is OK now. Also, you can take out the hammer and look for rub marks where it might be hitting. From what I saw on mine, if the screw/nut sticks up more than 1/8" or so, it can be a problem. As for the spring, you can hand cycle it with the top cover off and see if the spring moves or ride up the BHO. Cycle the action with your finger on and off the trigger and see if there is any difference. The spring should stay put and just go up and down on the trigger legs. good luck... let us know how you make out... later rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broken-Tengu 2 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 There is NO recoil on these things! How's the muzzle rise on that weapon ? How quickly can you aquire follow-up shots ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickWhite 7 Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Zero to none on muzzle rise and if I could pull the trigger a second time almost instantaneously. Bushnell, thats it! Thank you! I'll take it apart tonight and get back to you guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Make sure the trigger is not binding on the reciever. The slot for the hook may be too tight. Also check the ears on the hammer spring, they may need a tweak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broken-Tengu 2 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Zero to none on muzzle rise and if I could pull the trigger a second time almost instantaneously. Do you have a muzzle device ? If so , which one ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickWhite 7 Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 No muzzle device 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broken-Tengu 2 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Wow . REALLY ?! And NO muzzle rise and / or recoil ? That's noteworthy . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickWhite 7 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 If there is I didn't notice it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjwillow 5 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'll second that motion.... recoil is negligable. I only notice what little there is when I rest it on the bench.. I put a 74 brake on mine just for looks and for the sound. I can only imagine what a 5.45 is like with the brake and all.... Any word on the reset thing? later rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 The trigger reset issue pops up from time to time. Causes can range from hammer spring hooks falling off the trigger to burrs on the disconnector hook. That Bushnell Trophy MP is pretty tall for a Saiga. It's not bad, but it is probably intended for ARs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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