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Very Confusing day at the range today


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OK so i have an 2011 Saiga12 Serial number H11400501 with 3 ports (never measured just checked)

and using the CSS reliability package (VPlug, Booster puc and weaker spring) i have gotten it to shoot WalMart bulk Packs before, MANY TIMES BEFORE. i have probably put close to 1000 rd of federal bulk pack through it.

 

today when i went to the gun range i had the weak spring and the Vplug and the booster puc in it,

I also bought some of this ammo thinking because it was cheaper than normal high brass and had a higher fps i could use it http://www.sgammo.com/product/centurion/250-rd-case-12-gauge-centurion-1oz-650-caliber-round-ball-1400fps-275-inch-ammo

 

Nope would not eject so i played with the Vplug settings, took out the puck made sure i put it in the right direction, made sure i had the weak spring in. So i load another mag and still FTE's every round so I decided to go to the federal bulk ammo i have use before and i got FTE's from that too. I was shocked I could not/ cannot figure out why it worked before and will not now.

 

The only thing i can think of is that i cleaned it this morning but all i did was clean the VPlug, plug thread on the gas block and the puck with CLP.

 

Any ideas cuz im stumped

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yeah they dont looked clogged i dont have anything to put in the holes

 

ima take the gas block off

ive been looking for a reason to do this after i read how easy it was

anyone got a link to a thread that explains it (im searching too pls dont post about using search thx)

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by lube u mean CLP cuz that what i used but i did use it on the puck

I use a product called "Never Seze" on the slides,

bottom of the bolt and anywhere metal to metal comes in contact.

Great thing about the stuff it is very high temp, 1800*F, it will not melt out or run.

I use "Rem Oil" on my triggers, just a little bit.

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by lube u mean CLP cuz that what i used but i did use it on the puck

 

The lubed puck may be your problem. Lubing the puc could have reduced the force required to move it, not allowing it to build enough pressure to eject the shell.

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by lube u mean CLP cuz that what i used but i did use it on the puck

 

The lubed puck may be your problem. Lubing the puc could have reduced the force required to move it, not allowing it to build enough pressure to eject the shell.

I missed that in the post, yep that might be why it wont cycle.

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Clean it well and relube, just not the puck.

Clean the puck and gas tube, and put back dry.

If any thing a very, VERY, little gun oil in the gas tube.

I have found that if I hold the barrel pointing up at the sky,

then lower the barrel to point at the groung and the puck does

not move I will have a FTE on the first round sometimes.(I can hear it move)

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yeah they dont looked clogged i dont have anything to put in the holes

 

Use a paper clip. Unbend it until it's straight. The take a pair of pliers and bend a small angle on the end about an 1/8". Use that to check/clear the ports.

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yeah they dont looked clogged i dont have anything to put in the holes

 

ima take the gas block off

ive been looking for a reason to do this after i read how easy it was

anyone got a link to a thread that explains it (im searching too pls dont post about using search thx)

 

 

Heres the gold, thank Cobra76two!!!

 

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/17824-please-help-diagnose-a-chronic-fte-problem/

 

 

Or if you wana get straight to it:

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/17824-please-help-diagnose-a-chronic-fte-problem/page__view__findpost__p__152690

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ima take the gas block off

ive been looking for a reason to do this after i read how easy it was

 

its not that easy for every saiga12.....i had to ask Pauly for help. my pins wouldn't move at all lol

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