solhays85 0 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hello, I'm Solhays85, I'm new to this site and new to the AK platform. Ok, so I just got a new to me WASR last week and during the time of shooting about 220 rounds, the muzzle nut came off once or twice. So I ordered a Midwest flash hider with 14-1 left hand. Well, come to find out the hider will not thread, it's too large and just slides on and off. I'm almost wondering by looking at the threads, someone tapped the threads. They also seem to be pretty long, the threads go halfway into the hider. Any input would be awesome and I thank anyone taking a look. Here is a video Here is a picture of the threads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Plunger pin is missing for one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 OK, I'll look into that, thanks! But I know that isn't going to fix the issue. Do you think that the threads are longer than they should be? Also, do you think that someone tapped the threads with a smaller tap? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Would it be unwise to spot weld the flash hider to the sight post? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crowak 12 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 It looks like the end of the muzzle was turned down to remove the original threads, added a different fsb, and used a smaller die to cut new threads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 OK. That's what I was thinking. So you think that front sight isn't the factory one? That's my guess from what you mean by FSB. Is there anyway to fix this issue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Post a pic of the original muzzle attachment. You might be able to use a crush washer and red Locktite to secure it to the threads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 The original is just a barrel nut.(well that's what it came with, I bought it used) It slides around, but sometimes I can get it to hold to the very bottom threads. Post a pic of the original muzzle attachment. You might be able to use a crush washer and red Locktite to secure it to the threads. I was thinking of using teflon tape. I don't think there is enough to grab. It goes on and off without any friction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 It's on upside down. The slots are a detent to hold the muzzle device in place with the missing plunger pin. Teflon tape is worth trying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 haha, I flipped it right after I took the picture. But now that makes even more sense. The muzzle nut and sight post both have die grinder marks. Hmmm. So would it be a horrible idea to just cut some threads off, then spot weld the break to either the barrel or the sight post? Bottom side of the muzzle nut and sight post. Some idiot cut the nut and post. Now I kind of few dumb for not catching that. But oh well I guess. It shoots well and 220 rounds, hot as hell, it never had a failure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 The nut was tacked welded on, and the die die grinder was used to cut the welds. Don't screw with the barrel end, tack weld it to the sight post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Alright, I think that's the plan. Thank you very much for re-affirming what I was thinking. I love forums, XDtalk is like my second home and enjoy helping and getting good help. I thank you guys for helping out. Hopefully I will learn a ton here! Edited August 31, 2012 by solhays85 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 It's possible that it was threaded for 1/2"-28 or 1/2"-36. If the threads are just about 1/2" across, the chances are even better. The last thing I'd check would be the pitch of the threads. Now, there are tools for this kind of thing, but you could get a good idea of it by measuring along the length of the threads and counting the number of threads in 1/4". If it's 7, then you have 28 tpi; if it's 9, then you have 36. There are plenty of options for flash hiders in both of those varieties (with the vast majority of the 1/2"-28 variety), but be sure the device is caliber-specific if it acts as a brake or compensator. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Dr echoed my exact thoughts while reading your post. If it is threaded for 1/2 x 28, ( standard AR) it will be slightly smaller than 14x1. The big question is are the threads going to the left or the right? I can't tell from the picture. If it is 1/2x28 it will be right hand threaded. You may want to take it to a local gun shop and try a couple of muzzle devices to see if it might be the muzzle device you purchased not being to spec as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Awesome guys! Thank you so much. I just got the same info over at XDtalk. I'm going to try my AR15's flash hider on it later today and see if it fits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Well son of a gun! The one on my AR fit it nicely! Thanks again fellas! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 So now I need to find a FH that will fit my threads, and fit the 7.62 out of it. Any ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 If one off an AR fit why not use an AR muzzle device then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 You have tons of choices on the web. Just make sure that the exit diameter of the muzzle device is large enough for the .30 caliber AK round. Otherwise you will have a bad day trying to fire a 7.62 out of a .223 oriface. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 If you can't find one you like, you also have the option of buying a 1/2x28 to 5/8x24 adaptor. That will give you the option of using muzzle devices with a 7.62 bore on the 1/2x28 threads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 If one off an AR fit why not use an AR muzzle device then? Because from what I can see, most AR breaks only fit a 5.56 and not a 7.62 through it. I have been looking for one that would be large enough for a 7.62 to pass through. I am waiting reply from Troy about one of their breaks. If not, I will probably just weld this one on. It looks good, fits snug enough that when welded on, nothing bad will happen. Or I will just take an AR device I like over to a drill press and make it big enough. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 A standard AR flash hider/comp has plenty of diameter for 7.62mm, damn near enough for a .410. An AR brake will be different as it will be 5.56mm through it so the braking action takes place by displacing gas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solhays85 0 Posted September 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) Thanks MT! Well I revisited Troy's site. They have on for 7.62 on M16/AR15/M4 threads. So I'm going to buy it. Thank you all for the help! You guys rock. I'm going to post this link in case anyone else is looking for the same thing! http://troyind.com/%20/muzzle-devices/troy-medieval-flash-suppressor-7-62mm Edited September 3, 2012 by solhays85 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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