filospinato 0 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 So in an attempt to solve the FTF and jamming problem with the Rio 3" ammo in the factory 4 rd mag, I reverse engineered a flat pattern cut out of the metal retainer at the back of the mag, only this one has longer tabs. I CNC cut it from some stainless sheet, then bent it to shape. I had to relieve some of the plastic on the mag to get it to fit, but fit it did. I thought that if the shell was held down for a hair longer as it traveled forward, it wouldn't hit the feed ramp and should cycle fine. It actually worked on the first try with just one in the mag, but loading it to 4 caused the same old problem. I'm beginning to think about altering the plastic follower in the mag, maybe keeping the angle down won't make it jam. Anyone changed the follower ramp angle? Results? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurokaze 10 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I have but have yet to test it. I'll get back to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaddyhatty 65 Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I wonder if the shells your talking about fit into a 2 1/2" magazine.... Do you think messing with the follower angle will affect how the shells load and feed from the magazine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
filospinato 0 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I wonder if the shells your talking about fit into a 2 1/2" magazine.... I doubt it, the Rio shells are 2.605" long, folded crimp, as opposed to the Estate 2 1/2" I have, also folded crimp, which is around 2.25" long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaddyhatty 65 Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yeah' I guess probably not, I wish I had a 2 1/2 mag or two but I have never seen one for sale, on the out-of-stock price I've seen have been rediculous. I was just thinking that even the longest 3" shells will fit in the factory mag, so maybe a short 3" might fit in factory 2 1/2. That retainer was a good idea, you did a great job on it, I hope you get it working for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurokaze 10 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I got mine here... http://www.saigastock.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=24&products_id=118 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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