Cchis1322 0 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Hey everybody, i got my sagia and recently bought a bump stock for it but didnt realize i needed to convert it, i dont want to buy a parts kits because i dont need a new stock or pistol grip, so i was seeing if anybody knew the exacts parts i would need in order to do this and the process that would involve making the conversion. Thanks for any help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 A new fire control group is about it for a very basic conversion. Also a bullet guide if you want to run surplus mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cchis1322 0 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 you know a good site to find that on? or should any sagia site have that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Search Tapco G2. If you can't find it at a vendor on this forum (MAA, Dinzag, CSS etc. etc.) then try Amazon or the likes. I would look into an axis pin retaining plate as well. But yeah that's about it for parts. The rest is just tools to do the work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 You just need a Tapco G2 group. Get the Tromix-modified version if you want to keep the BHO, but if you don't need it, I'd get rid of it. Your move. Carolina Shooter's Supply carries both, but the site is offline right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cchis1322 0 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 ok so i found the tapco g2 and the axis retaining plate. but what exactly does the plate piece do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cchis1322 0 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Alright so i went onto dinzagarms and found a tapco g2 trigger along with a trigger guard for saigas, should that be all? and once again would i need the axis retaining plate? if it helps the gun with performace that i will Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) There are two pins (axis pins) in the receiver. The hammer pivots on one and the trigger pivots on the other. The plate holds the pins in place on the left side (inside) of the receiver. It keeps the pins from walking out the right side. It also makes installation and removal easier, in comparison to using a "shepherds crook" (spring wire retainer). You don't need a trigger guard if you are able to salvage the guard that is currently on it, to save money. But if you like the looks of a certain style, then by all means. If you try to re use the OE trigger guard, it gets installed backwards. Slide it up behind the magazine catch and bolt the back end down in the open hole, under the pistol grip. It mounts very solid, if you're wondering about that. Edited January 9, 2013 by Mullet Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cchis1322 0 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 ok so ill need two of the axis pins then, are they both the same to fit both left and right, or do i need a right axis and left axis? and sorry for the dumb questions, im good with pistols and hunting rifles, but this is my first sagia type rifle so im trying to get the hang of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) The axis pins are already in your receiver. Look at it from the side, see those two grey/silverish button looking things? Those are your axis pins. All you would want, is one retaining plate to hold them in place, for the conversion. You'll see when you take it apart, that each axis pin has groove in it. That groove is where the retaining plate seats, to hold them in place once installed in the receiver. Edit: Can someone post the chart showing the axis pin retaining plate vs. the different shepherds crooks installations? It will help give the OP a better idea of whats going on. Edited January 9, 2013 by Mullet Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cchis1322 0 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) got ya i understand it now, and last question would be what tools would i need, i have a rivet gun, but i dont think that would work for this job. and is this what i would need http://dpharms.com/products/ak-47_fire_control/red_star_axis_pin_retaining_plate.html Edited January 9, 2013 by Cchis1322 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Drill, drill press, dremel, angle grinder. The entire conversion can be done with any of those. I use an angle grinder because i don't bother saving and reusing the trigger guards, it just makes quick work of it. Youtube search: Saiga rifle conversion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cchis1322 0 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 perfect well i got a drill, dremel, and angle grinder just no drill press so ill youtube that soon and see what i can do, thank yall for help it was exactly what i needed to know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
semper299 284 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 perfect well i got a drill, dremel, and angle grinder just no drill press so ill youtube that soon and see what i can do, thank yall for help it was exactly what i needed to know Drill press is nice, but not necessary. Drilling out the rivets and doing the bullet guide is easier and quicker with a drill press, but a hand drill will work just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cchis1322 0 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) Hey everybody, got one more question. Im ordering the parts tonight and for some reason i can get dinzags website to work, it wont let me complete the order. but anyway i cant find a tapco g2 trigger anywhere so i was going to order this http://dpharms.com/products/saiga_accessories/saiga_s~2Fh_fire_control_group_by_tomix.html but it comes with sheperds crook,, and thats what i dont want, but would putting a retaining plate in there take the sheperds crook out? that way i wouldnt need to use it? and also the only tapco g2 i can find is a double hook trigger, would that work? Edited January 16, 2013 by Cchis1322 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cchis1322 0 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 OK so i orderd a new trigger guard, retaining plate, the saiga trigger by tomix, and hole plugs. Is that it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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