redrocker35 9 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 IYHO How much louder is the perceived dB level w/ the 24mm muzzle break(like on the Arsenal 26-61) than the normal noise level perceived by the shooter of 45 Slant style flash hider or even standard end? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Not quite what you are asking but i have a Romanian AKM with a Soviet slant muzzle brake and an AK-104 with the standard muzzle booster/flash hider and the 104 is a lot louder,which i suppose isn't helped by the shorter barrel.I have got an AK-74 style brake for the AKM and dont really notice much difference between that and the slant brake noise wise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Plugs and muffs and who notices. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redrocker35 9 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Not quite what you are asking but i have a Romanian AKM with a Soviet slant muzzle brake and an AK-104 with the standard muzzle booster/flash hider and the 104 is a lot louder,which i suppose isn't helped by the shorter barrel.I have got an AK-74 style brake for the AKM and dont really notice much difference between that and the slant brake noise wise Plugs and muffs and who notices. UKAK, That's exactly what I'm talking about( I think anyway lol) do you have pics of the ones you described so i can compare? The reason I ask is animals on our acrerage are spooked already by 3 1/2's in my Nitromag, 7.62x54r in the Mosin, .45 long colt in the Judge & the Saiga .223. (they don't seem too bothered too much by the M&P9 & smaller rounds though because of the lower dB) As much as we have tried, some escape their enclosure . It has come to mind (after much frustration and rounding em back up) that examples should be made which would give us a bonus of moving targets. Then I figure thier time will come soon enough! Back to what I was trying to nail down, comparatively, does the type of muzzle break on the this Arsenal SGL 26-61 cause a major amount more percieved dB when compared to this slant type on This beautiful Russian redheaded RAK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) Ah, now the two brakes for the Romanian AKM i have are exactly the same as the two in your pics and to be honest i havent noticed a great deal of difference noise-wise between the two, but saying that i havent tried the two without wearing ear defenders. This is the Romanian beauty with Soviet clothes and the slant brake on The scope isn't usually fitted, i only shoot this one with the irons. Edited April 1, 2013 by UKAK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redrocker35 9 Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) UKAK, I hear ya, even with my amplified enhancer/protectors... now if I could only convince those damn animals they ought to pony up for a pair of thier own, huh? Nice Romanian btw, I've always liked the way a detailed wood grain looks on these. Edited April 2, 2013 by redrocker35 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 UKAK, I hear ya, even with my amplified enhancer/protectors... now if I could only convince those damn animals they ought to pony up for a pair of thier own, huh? Nice Romanian btw, I've always liked the way a detailed wood grain looks on these. Thank you Its a Russian wannabe as the furniture,muzzle brake,sling,mag and rear sight are all Soviet AKM items Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 The extra noise from a muzzle brake is usually not that noticeable to the shooter. (The people to the side of the shooter are another story). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redrocker35 9 Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I pose a question then, much of the time I stand inside a doorway of a old out building firing outside for target practice, any ideas on how to dampen the firearm's report. Would a 3 sided padded room w/ a firing platform with a egg crated ceiling be safe? I know it sounds like a extreme, but spending more time training and less time rounding up the critters would be make it worth my while if it can be done safely. I always wear ear defenders, so even if the pressure increased where I was, it would be ok I believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Is a sound moderater an option? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Not quite what you are asking but i have a Romanian AKM with a Soviet slant muzzle brake and an AK-104 with the standard muzzle booster/flash hider and the 104 is a lot louder,which i suppose isn't helped by the shorter barrel.I have got an AK-74 style brake for the AKM and dont really notice much difference between that and the slant brake noise wise Im curious about the country of origin for your '74 style brake. Does it have an internal baffle similar to this one? http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-140US.html Or is it more like this one? http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/ak_flash_hiders.jpg Im trying to determine the sound difference between having a baffle vs. not having one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redrocker35 9 Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Is a sound moderater an option? It would be a option if the tax-stamp/purchase cost wasn't a issue. After brushing up on the penalties for illegal possession, I wouldn't be caught with even a free one. One day maybe, but I would want something that was interchangeable with multiple calibers & barrels, does this exist? Wouldn't that be nice to see something like that brought to consumer markets without the need to expensive tax-stamps and excessive paperwork? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Not quite what you are asking but i have a Romanian AKM with a Soviet slant muzzle brake and an AK-104 with the standard muzzle booster/flash hider and the 104 is a lot louder,which i suppose isn't helped by the shorter barrel.I have got an AK-74 style brake for the AKM and dont really notice much difference between that and the slant brake noise wise Im curious about the country of origin for your '74 style brake. Does it have an internal baffle similar to this one? http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-140US.html Or is it more like this one? http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/ak_flash_hiders.jpg Im trying to determine the sound difference between having a baffle vs. not having one. Its pretty much like the rusmilitary one.Its actually a Chinese copy of a Soviet AK-74 brake but made for 7.62x39 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Not quite what you are asking but i have a Romanian AKM with a Soviet slant muzzle brake and an AK-104 with the standard muzzle booster/flash hider and the 104 is a lot louder,which i suppose isn't helped by the shorter barrel.I have got an AK-74 style brake for the AKM and dont really notice much difference between that and the slant brake noise wise Im curious about the country of origin for your '74 style brake. Does it have an internal baffle similar to this one? http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-140US.html Or is it more like this one? http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/ak_flash_hiders.jpg Im trying to determine the sound difference between having a baffle vs. not having one. Its pretty much like the rusmilitary one.Its actually a Chinese copy of a Soviet AK-74 brake but made for 7.62x39 Cool. Im curious to see if the one with a baffle will make the rifle louder, vs. one that doesnt. Thanks for the prompt reply UKAK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 nothing about the AK-74 type brake is "louder", it simply redirects the blast in different directions, which gives the effect of greater blast depending on where you are in relation to it.. the shooter, and those directly to the right/left of the shooter, will perceive a harsher blast with the AK-74 type brake. the effect ahead of the muzzle may actually be less than with a bare muzzle or simple flash hider or slant brake, which do little to redirect the effects of the muzzle blast. I would try and find out for myself, but I can't run that fast. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 nothing about the AK-74 type brake is "louder", it simply redirects the blast in different directions, which gives the effect of greater blast depending on where you are in relation to it.. the shooter, and those directly to the right/left of the shooter, will perceive a harsher blast with the AK-74 type brake. the effect ahead of the muzzle may actually be less than with a bare muzzle or simple flash hider or slant brake, which do little to redirect the effects of the muzzle blast. I would try and find out for myself, but I can't run that fast. That does make sense, since I had the joy of having my SGL31 being fired, and me being present forward of the brake. Not fun. I was actually about 6 ft. to the left and 3 ft in forward of the muzzle. Very loud as opposed to being the one pulling the trigger. lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redrocker35 9 Posted April 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 nothing about the AK-74 type brake is "louder", it simply redirects the blast in different directions, which gives the effect of greater blast depending on where you are in relation to it.. the shooter, and those directly to the right/left of the shooter, will perceive a harsher blast with the AK-74 type brake. the effect ahead of the muzzle may actually be less than with a bare muzzle or simple flash hider or slant brake, which do little to redirect the effects of the muzzle blast. I would try and find out for myself, but I can't run that fast. nothing about the AK-74 type brake is "louder", it simply redirects the blast in different directions, which gives the effect of greater blast depending on where you are in relation to it.. the shooter, and those directly to the right/left of the shooter, will perceive a harsher blast with the AK-74 type brake. the effect ahead of the muzzle may actually be less than with a bare muzzle or simple flash hider or slant brake, which do little to redirect the effects of the muzzle blast. I would try and find out for myself, but I can't run that fast. That does make sense, since I had the joy of having my SGL31 being fired, and me being present forward of the brake. Not fun. I was actually about 6 ft. to the left and 3 ft in forward of the muzzle. Very loud as opposed to being the one pulling the trigger. lol. Not quite what you are asking but i have a Romanian AKM with a Soviet slant muzzle brake and an AK-104 with the standard muzzle booster/flash hider and the 104 is a lot louder,which i suppose isn't helped by the shorter barrel.I have got an for the AKM and dont really notice much difference between that and the slant brake noise wise Thank you guys, this is great to know, having been down range sounds like a practical way to experience the difference with a AK-74 style brake. I've had a similar experience with one of our Mosin 7.62x54 rounds... wanted a closer look at the fireball but never again without ear defenders. I can't help feel bad for large numbers of soldiers and Marines caught in roadside bombings and firefights in Iraq and Afghanistan that are coming home with permanent hearing loss and ringing in their ears. All to aware of the casualties of not only the major US conflicts and wars but training exercises as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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