scstrain 8 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) Hello, sorry if this has been covered. Is it common on a modified Saiga 12 with U.S. FCG, for the safety lever to click up past the receiver stopping at the bottom of the dust cover ? If so, is there something that can be done to remedy this ? Thanks. Edited February 7, 2015 by scstrain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) It's intentional. Clicked all the way up in that position, it acts as a dust cover, preventing crap from getting in the receiver - it also prevents you from pulling the charging handle. Edited February 7, 2015 by Shandlanos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) ...or you can use a center punch to put a small divot in the receiver where you want it to stop. I learned this from GunFun. He actually suggested using that as a guide to use a drill to go deeper, but I found that the punch went deep enough for my purposes. I can still get the lever to go up too high if I force it but the dimple does a great job. Your safety lever scratch will show you exactly where to punch it. There's another mod out there that has to do with adding material to your FCG but the dimple worked well enough that I never investigated further. This one is $7 on Amazon if you don't have one.Search for... Starrett 117AA Edited February 7, 2015 by SGL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 ^^^ This if it bothers you like it did me. Just make sure that the safely fully engages the trigger legs when punching or drilling the new stop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scstrain 8 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the info. When the safety lever clicks all the way up to the dust cover it is much harder to push back down into the "Off Safety" position. Any pictures of dimple added or other suggestions ? Thanks. Edited February 7, 2015 by scstrain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Yes. Sit on the gun. (empty.) rotate the safety clockwise. Lift it over the safety stop. It should now be pointing almost straight down. Place one hand on the safety pivot and push down. Pull up on the end with the other hand. Bend it up or down until you get the desired tension. These things are crazy tough. Don't worry about breaking it. The next mod is a stop on the right side leg of the trigger body where the safety engages. Most people fit the saftey to the trigger, but I recommend fitting the trigger to the safety first. If there is a shallow step, 1/64" or so, it is enough to make a firm upward stop. With the cover off, and a solid pull the safety can be pulled past, but it is not going to happen short of that. The exact length of the step has to be determined by filing the step to roughly short of where the safety would go, then filing the safety until it engages properly. Then you lengthen the step until the safety only rotates up the correct amount into the dust cover and bumps the end of the step. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wagnikov 186 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 I have had a gun or two do this. The safety is suppose to cover the dust cover, yes. And when you pull back on the charging handle it is suppose to stop on the fork on the end of the safety and stop the carrier from stripping a new round. Sometimes the fit between the dust cover and the top of the safety are not-so precise, and the charging handle will jack the safety up and over the charging handle. My untouched milled arsenal would do this and scratched the piss out of everything, plus it would jamb the safely lever. On the guns I liked, the decent just barely clicked over the topside of the receiver. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Pics of the dimples in this video. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wagnikov 186 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 ^what he said Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scstrain 8 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 The safety lever worked fine until the FCG was changed. Is it true that the U. S. made FCG can be the cause ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 It can require a little fitting. No big deal. The safety interfaces with the trigger body. If you change either of those two parts, fitting may be needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 I used a dremmel cut off wheel and cut two 1/3 inch shallow parallel groves in the sweet spots, looks like what they do on the factory AKs and stops the safety where I want it. Does the same thing as the punch method mentioned above, but looks better to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 That is how they do on a milled factory AK, but I am not so sure it would look right to me on stamped. Who cares what I think though? You made what you liked, and that's what is cool. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wagnikov 186 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 My saiga 030 guns have the detent cut out like the milled recieved do, and they are the same stamped receiver. So authenticity shouldn't stop anyone. 040 guns also Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wagnikov 186 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Obviously not the location we are talking about, but these detent slots are strait from factory. So it "ok" to repeat lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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