Squeaky 135 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hey Guys: I know this is a Saiga forum and everyone is a fan of the Saiga shotguns, but I just can't afford a Saiga 12 or Vepr 12. I'm talking to my counselor about that! :-) I was wondering if anyone has an opinion of the H&R semi-auto 12-gauge shotgun. It looks like their Pardner Pump, so it doesn't look as cool, but I assume you can still shoot a lot buckshot and slugs at something. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I don't recommend cheap semi auto shotguns. If you can't afford a good one then get a pump. There is nothing wrong with a pump. They work equally well with magnum shells and cheap walmart target loads. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I would have to agree with darth. Whatever your financial position may be, a good pump beats a questionable semi any day. Unless you're just looking to mess around. ( which your post does not seem to indicate. ) if that's the case, go for it. But if this gun is meant to fill a role ( home defense, target, competion shooting) I wouldn't waste my time. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus 1,619 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I have the H&R Pardner Pump and it's solid, but I also agree with Darth to not go cheap on a semi-auto 12G. You can get a Mossberg 930 for around $500 brand new, though I'm sure many guys would call that cheap too. Get a respected brand with a warranty. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) The 930 is the low end of the price range of decent auto shotguns. I don't say that as a bad thing. I have a 930 SPX and am VERY happy with it now that I have replaced the pos choate stock and threaded the barrel for chokes. So I'm around $1k into it to get what I wanted. I don't usually name my guns but this one I call Beast. My other tactical shotgun is a Norinco pump I got for $200 new. The Knoxx stock brought the price up to $280. I would stake my life on this shotgun without hesitation. Edited March 28, 2015 by Darth Saigus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra1 391 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 You could probably find a used Remington 870 for just slightly more than a new Pardner. Tried and true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 You could probably find a used Remington 870 for just slightly more than a new Pardner. Tried and true. The 930 is the low end of the price range of decent auto shotguns. I don't say that as a bad thing. I have a 930 SPX and am VERY happy with it now that I have replaced the pos choate stock and threaded the barrel for chokes. So I'm around $1k into it to get what I wanted. I don't usually name my guns but this one I call Beast. My other tactical shotgun is a Norinco pump I got for $200 new. The Knoxx stock brought the price up to $280. I would stake my life on this shotgun without hesitation. Good advice I sure plan to follow. Take it for what it's worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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